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Barring some funky, special version of MC that does deal damage as an attack, no, EE and MC can't be used together.
Not work together, that's not what i mean. What i mean is that the SP gives 3 lightning bolts when using EE, EE is always on now as an active ability so would you always get 3 lightning bolts for everything while the special ability is showing. Because EE is always active now, it just only does dmg with a ranged action.
EE is considered to be "used" on any attack it qualifies for, just like BCF. So any time Doom decides to take a ranged combat action that does damage, he can do so with those 3 bolts since he is "using" EE.
Yes, but the resulting splash damage will still only be 1.
They groaned, they stirred, they all uprose, Nor spake, nor moved their eyes; It had been strange, even in a dream, To have seen those dead men rise.
EE is considered to be "used" on any attack it qualifies for, just like BCF. So any time Doom decides to take a ranged combat action that does damage, he can do so with those 3 bolts since he is "using" EE.
Basically this, I was having a hard time putting it in to words. My thought though is its always active now so would it always give 3 bolts. Where as before you had to use EE as an action to get the bolts.
Not work together, that's not what i mean. What i mean is that the SP gives 3 lightning bolts when using EE, EE is always on now as an active ability so would you always get 3 lightning bolts for everything while the special ability is showing. Because EE is always active now, it just only does dmg with a ranged action.
True, but the damage portion of the new EE is only ever triggered when the Ranged Combat Action results in damage. Outside of very special circumstances, MC will not cause EE to actually do anything.
They groaned, they stirred, they all uprose, Nor spake, nor moved their eyes; It had been strange, even in a dream, To have seen those dead men rise.
Basically this, I was having a hard time putting it in to words. My thought though is its always active now so would it always give 3 bolts. Where as before you had to use EE as an action to get the bolts.
I see what you mean now! That is a doozy. I think most likely Doom and other such powers will see an errata to prevent them from having multiple targets for every Ranged Combat Action instead of just for EE purposes as currently intended.
They groaned, they stirred, they all uprose, Nor spake, nor moved their eyes; It had been strange, even in a dream, To have seen those dead men rise.
True, but the damage portion of the new EE is only ever triggered when the Ranged Combat Action results in damage. Outside of very special circumstances, MC will not cause EE to actually do anything.
Yes, but what I'm hinting at is since EE is always active you would have 3 bolts when using the SP and could use MC with 3 targets. Where as before you couldnt because the 3 bolts only applied when using EE as an action.
Yes, but what I'm hinting at is since EE is always active you would have 3 bolts when using the SP and could use MC with 3 targets. Where as before you couldnt because the 3 bolts only applied when using EE as an action.
Edit: yay we understand each other now!
Actually, I think it would be better to add a new line of text to EE than to change every possible past power to work differently. I'm thinking something along the line that EE isn't considered to be used when non-damage abilities like MC are activated. Obviously it would need to be a much cleaner wording but I think that would be the better way to go as it would cover you bases for future abilities that may not jive well with the current EE wording.
They groaned, they stirred, they all uprose, Nor spake, nor moved their eyes; It had been strange, even in a dream, To have seen those dead men rise.