LOL I meant horrible. I really need to get some sleep.

Mind you I do have great respect for anyone who shows up to a tournament with Gleek on their force.

Yeah. The cheapest perplexer with an 8 range is Rookie Saturn Girl from Cosmic Justice at 44 points. 6 of her and a rookie mandroid armor is 292 points.

Origins 2 years ago, someone made it through the sealed grinders and for his constructed team in top 16 included Gleek.

I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I would have probably ranked him as the absolute worst character in Modern Age at the time.

I think he throws people off. No one wants to KO him cause they get the perplex* too. Personally, I'd bite the bullet, use an action, and smack him for an easy 21 points.


*His trait is deceptive. While the person running him get's full perplex, the opponent only benefits on his own turn. Its all offense oriented so no bumping defense when you don't attack. I wouldn't say he is good, but I would imagine people probably overestimate how much he is helping them when he is across the map from them.

You can do it in modern age if you set it up right.
Team:
Ronan the Accuser(Fast Forces) -75pt
Bruce Wayne(202a) - 50
Lucius Fox(Dark Knight Rises) -35
Gleek - 21
3x AIM Agents 38

total 295
Set up:

|BW| |R | |LF|G |
| |AA|AA |AA|

Bruce Wayne, Lucus Fox, And the 3 AIM Agents can see Ronan at the start first action move up Gleek to get LOF of Ronan use all six plex's. Second action TK up Ronan w/ Burce Wayne.Third action Run shot Pulse Wave.

I just KO'd everyone else, thanked the chimp for helping my team more than the other guy, and KO'd him.
But since it doesn't require line of fire or range, the opponent is actually guaranteed to get the benefit every turn, whereas the guy playing him actually has to be positioned properly to reap the rewards.

And somehow, he's rated as 5 stars in the Units section, while I noticed earlier that both Tab-App Spider-Men are only 3 stars.
Madness.

I forgot to look for pieces with TK and perplex. Still, that Ronan's range is only 6. You need at least 100 points for a 9+ movement, 8+ range figure with RS/PW in golden (well with a respectable AV). You need 127 points in modern.

I've honestly never played him or against him, I was merely speculating.

It doesn't get the hole board but it does get 23 squares. Also just realized you if swap out Gleek for the belt and get +1 AV and Ronan for sun Boy you can got the full 24 squares and have a spare plex for AV or DV.

2(starting area)+8(TK)+7(RS)+7(PW) = 24 squares and you get a 12 atk(+1 form belt +1 from spare pelx)

Pulse Waves ignores game effects used or possessed by the characters with a line of fire drawn to them. Rules are not game effects used or possessed by the characters even if they are game effects.

Dark Phoenix 100 w Ubelt 8 on click 1 so +1 stats
Bruce wayne w tk and plex 50

Thats just 158 which leaves 142 points for one more perplex to reach the back row turn one and fill out the team. With just those two figures you can hit row 23 from row 2 (2 + 8 + 10/2+1 + 10/2+2)

I always took game effect to generally mean anything that affects the game that *isn't* a rule. I mean I know everything is ultimately a rule, but I'm talking any "things" the rules have constructed to be reusable parts of the game, such as the definition of powers, abilities, feats, relics, resources, terrain, etc etc etc. Taking game effect to mean rule would create a paradox because pulse wave would ignore the definition of game effect itself and that's just absurd. Related to this, can we just get rid of the glossary if nothing is correct in it? Why is there a section in the rules full of admitted misinformation?

It's not really "misinformation" so much as it's "short-hand definitions that aren't comprehensive."
That said, I would fully support the idea of either a) giving the glossary a complete overhaul, or b) scrapping the glossary section completely and instead having an index that directs one back to the main rulebook pages.

The confusion, I think, comes from the wording in the new version which says tht when drawing LOF to the characters in the area of effect you ignore all game effects except blocking, elevated and walls. So you could draw the LOF. But the attack won't ignore FRI, even so.

If you're starting a petition, sign me up. The glossary should be accurate rules text or it shouldn't be there at all.

Probably not the place for it, but getting someone across the map on your first turn (or more importantly 1 turn) isn't that hard if the maps favorable for it (i.e. not a lot of elevation or blocking).

One trick to use is Astral Strange with the Gauntlet (1 item is all that's needed) and another TK'er. Tk RS with PW'er out, have Astral free move, then TK them again. You're on square 17 now. RS should now get you anywhere you need to go to to Pulse Wave. This is without using any perplex either. There are also more ways to get free movie actions now, so anyone who can do that with Gauntlet makes this tactic viable.