Ideally to note, there's a reverse aspect.

If you're playing Zuvembies or Ultron for instance, and you have spawned extras and your opponent was going to overscore because of it. You could forfeit to deny them the bonus.

Note that there is a difference between FORFEIT and CONCEDE.

Forfeiting would be like being in the can and not being in your seat at the game when the judge yells "Go!"

Conceding would be saying "Ok, you have me where I can't win. I give up."

How can only getting 300 points satisfy the "win with the best possible victory conditions" of 6.4? Wouldn't the best possible victory conditions be for him to be able to utilize the trait of his V4H base to get double the points of 'the mark?'

Double points that he would have gotten but for his opponent's unsportsmanlike conduct (as pointed out by the other RD) in willfully forfeiting only to deny him those extra points.

I understand that it also states they get the full build points, creating an apparent contradiction with the "best possible victory conditions" line, but it seems to me that perhaps 6.4's authors did not contemplate a scenario like that described by the OP.

Would you mind quoting Conceding from the Comprehensive Tournament rules?

Edit: Got it.

So if they Concede, they rob themselves of all points they'd get.

So what happens if in the OP's original scenario the opponent conceded to attempt to deny him double the points of the V4H trait? Would he score full points or double points.

I'd imagine due to the wording on Conceding that you'd get normal.

The wording on the trait is what screws it in this scenario, since they have to be the ones to KO the opponent. If an opponent pushes to kill themselves or anything like that, you won't get double points, there's a lot of annoying ways to ruin it. Sadly its one of those things that unless they restructuring the trait, there's no way to fix it.

If it's obvious that I have no chance to win the match, I will probably concede so we can get ready for the next one. I would offer to give you the extra points for the VFH ability if I did so, as long as the judge is cool with it. Conceding normally implies you are agreeing that the opponent will have KOed all your pieces before the match is over, and you don't think you'll be able to score any more (at least IME). It's either concede, run away (bleh), or run forward in silly suicide attacks (double bleh).

I think you should get the points. This is very different than a "Capture" scenario.

I would argue that the "best possible victory conditions" language leaves room for interpretation, but there's a reason I'm not a rules guru...

Yea I get what you're saying.

Personally, I feel if your reason for conceding is to deny victory points you've crossed into the realm of DQ'able activities.

Look, obviously this is something that will not be common place. First off, you gotta have some solid brass balls to do that to someone just to deny them points.

My concern is that someone could do that in a top tiered tournament in an attempt to collude in giving someone else in the tournament a better tie breaker by having the opponent score less points. That and I'm not cool with people knowingly and willfully trying to hose others that way.

Yes, if it's an intentional attempt to deny points by conceding, that screams poor sportsmanship to me. I'd never do that unless the guy with the TB was a dink to me during the game or something.

I would agree. Conceding because you've reached can't win and don't want to play "keep-away" or "suicide run" for the balance of the game is one thing, conceding or forfeiting (sounds like the OP's issue was a concession, not a forfeiture) to deny someone points is something different and definitely cause for a DQ.

I still recall all the debates on allowing concession, back when the rules didn't. I still don't know that I'm in favor of it, but it's not a black-and-white issue.

I played in a tournament once that allowed for bonus victory points to be scored. I went 3-0, but lost on points. However, in the final round I had damaged my opponent to where it was pretty much impossible for him to damage me (his figure's damage values were all 1 or 2 & I had Imperv and Invuln figures.) There was still about 30 minutes left in the game, which I had intended to use to rack up the bonus victory points. My opponent realized he couldn't hurt my figures and stated "this is silly, I quit (concede.)" I scored his 300 point army, but lost on points which I would have had more than enough time to far surpass the leader on points. I wasn't upset about the event, since it was an LE I already had, plus it's a pretty friendly and fun place, so I know the guy's intent was to cause me a loss. However, I could see this situation happening to players using VFH team base in events more often as they are a pretty powerful piece and open up opportunities for additional victory points beyond the build total.

What if the incident happens on the last round of the tournament? There's really no disincentive at that time for the player to do this.