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Because squares aren't mentioned in the power. "All" refers back to "friendly characters," nothing else because it isn't in the sentence. It contradicts the power as written because Normalview is inserting something into it that isn't there.
You're reading 'all' as referring to the characters' condition before TK is used.
But, as written, there's nothing to contradict 'all' referring to the condition of the characters before and after the TK.
In other words, the power is stating that he can use TK as long as all characters are within 3 squares and remain within 3 squares.
Everything must be within 3 squares of Kid Omega; that's why it says target AND PLACE. If they only had to be within 3 to begin with, placement wouldn't be mentioned and it would just say "target".
This means he could still potentially move a character up to 7 squares total, but only when you have something like:
C . . . . . X
. . . K . . .
Where K is Kid Omega, C is one of the friendly characters and X is the destination square.
Taking this to the cave.
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HIGH POWER, LIMITED SCOPE: When using Mind Control, Kid Omega may target up to three opposing characters if all are within 3 squares of him. When using Telekinesis, Kid Omega may target and place up to three friendly characters if all A and B squares are within 3 squares of him; when he does, he ignores those friendly characters for line of fire purposes.
That would make things much clearer.
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Because squares aren't mentioned in the power. "All" refers back to "friendly characters," nothing else because it isn't in the sentence. It contradicts the power as written because Normalview is inserting something into it that isn't there.
The text is ambiguous, and needs clarification based on the intent. There's nothing wrong with "I don't see that, I think it means this", in fact it looks like vlad disagrees and wants some discussion. But posts that basically say "that's crap, you're pulling that out of your ass" are pointlessly antagonistic: it draws focus to the insult and diminishes the value of your argument.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
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I had read this as place them within three squares anyway. To me it could still prove very useful for getting people out of bad situations.
Agreed, its not bad at all either way they rule it, if anything its borderline ridiculous if they rule it 8 squares out. He can still use it on a single target up to 8 squares out regardless. I just find it funny people who are mad about the Alpha Strike meta in one thread, are here arguing for something to be ruled to make an easier alpha strike/yoyo.
Regardless of result, he's a powerful fig, especially with traited MC/TK.
Agreed, its not bad at all either way they rule it, if anything its borderline ridiculous if they rule it 8 squares out. He can still use it on a single target up to 8 squares out regardless. I just find it funny people who are mad about the Alpha Strike meta in one thread, are here arguing for something to be ruled to make an easier alpha strike/yoyo.
Regardless of result, he's a powerful fig, especially with traited MC/TK.
He doesn't have traited MC and TK, the trait affects how he can use those powers.
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Agreed, its not bad at all either way they rule it, if anything its borderline ridiculous if they rule it 8 squares out. He can still use it on a single target up to 8 squares out regardless. I just find it funny people who are mad about the Alpha Strike meta in one thread, are here arguing for something to be ruled to make an easier alpha strike/yoyo.
Regardless of result, he's a powerful fig, especially with traited MC/TK.
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He doesn't have traited MC and TK, the trait affects how he can use those powers.
I'm not sure what is being said here. He has both TK and MC on his dial. The trait gives an option to use either in a different way than normal, but it does not restrict him to those uses: both are available to be used in the normal way if you choose.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
“No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style.”
This means he could still potentially move a character up to 7 squares total, but only when you have something like:
C . . . . . X
. . . K . . .
Where K is Kid Omega, C is one of the friendly characters and X is the destination square.
That can actually be only 6 squares, I you count in a straight line. Now, if you throw in a zig-zag, you can make it 7 or 8 squares, but that is unnecessary. Just tryin to prevent confusion for anyone who tries to count out the 7 in their head using your picture.
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