"DISCOVERED THE EMOTIONAL SPECTRUM FIRST: At the beginning of your turn, choose a color other than white. Until your next turn, any opposing character within range and line of fire can't use powers of that color."

A question came up regarding this special power and powers usable through a special/white power.

So let's say for example First Lantern has SLoSH057 Lydea Mallor within range and line of fire, and at the beginning of the turn First Lantern chooses the colour black (white can't be chosen as per the wording in First Lantern's special power). So that would mean - despite Lydea Mallor being able to use a black power through a white power - would not be able to use her Stealth through the "Warped in Shadow" special power, right? Other powers granted through that special/white power that are not black would still be usable (in Lydea Mallor's case, Smoke Cloud which is a purple power), but since black has been chosen and Stealth is a black power, it would not be usable.

That's how First Lantern's special power works, right?

The argument I'm hearing is this:

Lydea Mallor's Stealth is granted through a special/white power; the colour white cannot be chosen through First Lantern's special power; therefore there colour of any standard power usable through a special/white power - despite them ordinarily being coloured (i.e. on the PAC) - could not be chosen through First Lantern's special power.

Thoughts?

Seems like it came up in another thread without a definitive answer:
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=510243

I can see this ruling going either way but if I had to guess it would be that she would be unable to use Stealth in this instance as it is a black power on the PAC.

First Lantern's special explicitly states the opposing characters "can't use" the chosen powers. The special states nothing about that chosen power's color being "visually displayed" as a requirement for the special to be in effect.

The PAC is a cheat-sheet for what these standard colors in certain dial slots mean.

Red doesn't mean Blades/Claws/Fangs. It could mean Super-Senses, Flurry, or RCE.

Blades/Claws/Fangs does not mean red.

Red in the attack slot means Blades/Claws/Fangs.

Powers that affect a certain slot on opposing figures affect only the powers in that slot. The PAC, again, isn't a slot. Its a guide to help players understand the standard dials.

The same would follow for colors. If a power says no Red for you then all the Red slots on a figure's dial don't work. If a figure has all Special / White Powers then they are immune to this effect.

Hopefully that helps in some way...

Well, there is M&M Danger
STRATEGIC DATABASE: Danger can use Probability Control. Her powers can't be countered, and no opposing characters 10 or fewer squares from Danger to which she has a clear line of fire at the beginning of any action can have their combat values modified during that action if the modified value would be higher.

So if player 1 has a Superman with a trait or SP that lets him uses HSS at full range it doesn't matter that he's also carrying a character 11 squares away. Because he started the action within Danger's "aura" Superman doesn't take the -2 movement penalty.

I have to disagree. I would argue that Blades/Claws/Fangs is inherently a red power. The PAC is not just a cheat sheet, it defines each power. Meaning that Blades/Claws/Fangs is inherently both a red power and an attack power. I can't think of a power offhand that would work the other way, but if a character had a power that said you couldn't use standard attack powers that would mean you could not use a power like Blades/Claws/Fangs even if it was granted to the character through a trait or SP on a slot other than the attack slot. So by the same logic, a power retains its color definition even when given through a nonstandard ability.

I do believe the power is talking about special lantern powers. the different colors of all the lanterns. not the standard powers.

My judge was apparently emailing one or more oranges and, according to him, the response was that anything not colored on the dial (meaning anything granted by a white power, resource, relic or other game effect) is not affected by First Lantern's power.

I am seeing posts about this power and people saying it can get rid of standard powers. That is not how it was intended. "Discovered the Emotional Spectrum First" is talking about the Emotional Spectrum not just what color a standard power happens to be. The power is designed to get rid of a Emotional spectrum power. For example: First Lantern is going up against a mostly blue lantern team with a yellow lantern figure too. He can choose to say no one can use the blue lantern hope special power. So now only the yellow figure can use the fear power and now since the hope power is gone they don't have perplex.

The emotional spectrum powers is what this power is designed to get rid of so PLEASE START USING THIS FIGURE RIGHT!!!!!

THIS POWER IS DESIGNED TO GET RID OF EMOTIONAL SPECTRUM POWERS NOT STANDARD POWERS!!!!

This Power Is Designed To Get Rid Of Emotional Spectrum Powers Not Standard Powers!!!!!!

There is nothing in that power that references the Lantern Emotional Spectrum powers other than the actual name of the power. The name has no bearing on it's effect.

it is what makes sense. It says discovered the emotional spectrum first. So you would think that they meant all the special color powers and not just standard powers. I so hope wizkids makes a post about this and tells you all that I am right.

There isn't anything in the power that mentions any specificity to lantern related powers. I wish that were the case and I will be happy if Wizkids does indeed confirm your opinion. Confused but happy. As to the "it's the only thing that makes sense" argument then you and I need to play that card to convince them to errata the lantern ring relics to give characters flight as well.

The conversation's moved on just a tad, but this still kinda needs to be mentioned:

If it was meant to get rid of Emotional Spectrum Special Powers (Sinestro Corps' Fearplex, for example) then why does it specify to choose a color other than White? The Emotional Spectrum Powers are all Special Powers, indicated on a dial via the color White - the only color First Lantern can't choose to negate.

The name is just flavor text. For all that calling it "Discovered the Emotional Spectrum First" means, it could've just as easily been called "The Guardians of Oa are doody-heads" and had the same impact.

Side note: You seem a tad hostile about this. Or perhaps antagonistic may be a better word.

It might just be how I'm reading your posts, mind, but phrasing like that does lend credence to my impression.