From the new Rules Forum:
The way I read that since keyword traits do not specify that they are active during force construction they no longer function for ATAs and Theme Teams. That would include almost every trait that grants keywords. I don't think they thought this ruling through very well.

Ah, thanks for clearing that up, A_B. Not a strong thread for me; I'll have to keep a closer eye on the new Rules forum in the future.

So here is what they said;
Unless the Trait specifies otherwise, Trait effects are not active during force construction

Here is what these powers say in general, the ones that don't are errata'd or if they aren't then they aren't meant to work during construction.

WELCOME TO THE LEGION: When you build your force, choose one character of 50 points or less. That character gains the Legion of Super Heroes keyword and "wing symbol" this game. If your force includes other characters with this trait, you may increase the point value of your chosen character by 50 points if this character doesn't use this trait.


A MOTLEY ARMY FROM ALL NINE REALMS: When building your force, if Duhg is the highest-point character, other characters that share a keyword with him also have the Duhg's Army keyword.

So there we can see the power says it triggers "When building" so it is in effect from then on as the power calls for. This is why it is different than Sinestro/Hal's power.

If their power said;

When building if this piece started at 100 give it ....

then it might allow for something different but as it is currently ruled these things aren't active until he begins the game.

Wait where does it say that pre-WoS figures can't be possessed?

They don't have click numbers printed on their dial (wasn't instituted until WoS). No click numbers, no Possession.

The figure being possessed needs to have click numbers because of the wording of Possessed.

POSSESSED: Click the Possessor's dial to the same click number as this character and change it during the game in the same way that this character's dial changes. At the beginning of each of your turns or after this character takes or is healed of damage and actions resolve, you may choose 1 power showing on one Possessor's dial and 1 combat value on one Possessor's dial higher than this character's printed combat value. This character can use that power and modifies that combat value by +1 until your next turn or until it is healed or takes damage. If the Possessor is turned to a KO click, it is removed from the game immediately.



Doh! ninjad

Huh, I had no idea that was even an issue.

First set to include click numbers on the dial was Blackest Night starter. Same deal applies though.

If you actually read the text on Possession I would make the argument that nothing explicitly excludes figs without the numbered clix, they're just not clearly marked. In tournament play disallowing Entities on older figs is fine, but in casual play I would not deny someone the use of an Entity over something so minor. When deciding on ways to enhance golden age figs I much prefer the Entities over Resources or FCs because by comparison they're much easier to keep track of.

You are, of course, free to ignore any and all official rules of your choice when playing at home, but as far as the official rules of this game (which is really all that should concern this particular sub-forum), entities on a figure without click numbers is a no-no

You do not check for click numbers during assignment. Nothing prohibits assignment to figures without click numbers. The game just has a tough time handling how the Possession trait functions once the game begins.

The ruling from the Rules Team does.

Huh. I missed that ruling. Do you have a link?

You need to stop saying this. You are literally doing those who aren't that we'll versed in the rules a disservice. This only complicates it for people who have learning and reading comprehension handicaps.

You cannot assign an Entity to a figure without click numbers and you know if your figure has click numbers during force construction.

I like you A_B but purposely confusing people and purposely stating incorrect rules is just wrong and greatly upsets me. Please refrain from doing so moving forward.

I'm not sure if it was covered on the new rules forum, but they sent out e-mails and it was discussed on here like a month back. Here's my e-mail:

You keep stating it like its fact that I am incorrect without explaining why I am incorrect.

I see the email Joe quoted. Thank you, Joe. That is helpful.