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In the recent WizKids rulings, WizKids has just ruled that unless a figure has the Qualifying Name/Real Name box on their card, the no longer qualify for Split/Merge mechanic.
This kills the mechanic for ALL duo figures made before the split merge mechanic, including any modern figure without the box (Led Luthor & Joker, World's Finest)
This is a bad ruling.
C'mon dude you gotta link the ruling so we are on the same page. Some are are saying errata fixed it Dragon says the ruling says it has to be printed on the card...
Vanisher, while I doubt that is their intent the ruling says the Real/Qualifying name box must be printed on the card. Those figures do not have it printed on the card.
Again, I don't think this was the intent but their response can lead people to believe that the old duos don't work.
Well, we'd better not show people page 17 of the actual rulebook then.
"Powers are always printed on a combat dial, are visible through the stat slot, and are either standard powers (colored squares) or special powers (black-bordered white squares)."
If the same people who would be confused by this ruling happen upon that stuff from page 17, then surely they will get confused into thinking that powers granted by relics and other such effects won't work because they are not printed on a dial.
Always means always after all.
As mentioned previously this has not changed for WK run events since DexCon 2012, possibly Origin (in any case, the beginning).
I was working DexCon. The PG with the errata entries to give older duos had not yet been published. People wishing to play Deadpool/Cable with the new Split/Merge were denied.
C'mon dude you gotta link the ruling so we are on the same page. Some are are saying errata fixed it Dragon says the ruling says it has to be printed on the card...
With how quickly they answered that question on WES compared to how slowly they are deciding to answer stuff like KC trait I think omitting Real names/qualifying names seems intentional. Personally I am not that bothered, splitting and merging always seemed a little wordy for me and slightly confusing so I rarely used it. If it disappeared all together I don't think I would miss it.
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Sigh. Whatcha wanna bet they're not going to errata Lead/Tin or Will Magnus/Platinum, from Crisis, now, despite both duos having perfect point costs for Split/Merge with their new, single-based counterparts?
The golden age errata section states that any further errata on figures in golden age will not normally happen so I think your almost certainly right here if they were going to be errata'd they'd have done it already.
Well, we'd better not show people page 17 of the actual rulebook then.
"Powers are always printed on a combat dial, are visible through the stat slot, and are either standard powers (colored squares) or special powers (black-bordered white squares)."
If the same people who would be confused by this ruling happen upon that stuff from page 17, then surely they will get confused into thinking that powers granted by relics and other such effects won't work because they are not printed on a dial.
Always means always after all.
As mentioned previously this has not changed for WK run events since DexCon 2012, possibly Origin (in any case, the beginning).
I was working DexCon. The PG with the errata entries to give older duos had not yet been published. People wishing to play Deadpool/Cable with the new Split/Merge were denied.
You more than most know that it can and will confuse people and they will try to argue about it
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I'm pretty sure Dragon has the Future keyword and Probability Control.
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Dragon is correct. Dragon is always correct. Never argue with a Dragon.
Vanisher, while I doubt that is their intent the ruling says the Real/Qualifying name box must be printed on the card. Those figures do not have it printed on the card.
Again, I don't think this was the intent but their response can lead people to believe that the old duos don't work.
Well, since the first post doesn't have the link anymore, and I can't find it with just a little bit of searching, but if I remember correctly, it didn't say anything about having the qualifying name table printed on the card. It simply said that because the duo in question did not have a qualifying name table, then it couldn't use Split/Merge.
This ruling has absolutely no bearing on characters, that do have qualifying name table, even if that table is not printed on the character card.
To think that this ruling affects older characters basically means that you are not aware of the errata to the characters. And if you are not aware of the errata to the characters, how were you using them with Split/Merge to begin with?
This whole thread is just one of those "I misread a current ruling or have misunderstood the rules before and now I am angry"-threads.
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That's precisely WHY it is lazy. Don't just day "Durr, nope!" Say "Please wait a week while we fix the mistake."
The only possible mistake here is made by the design team. To think that the rules team is the same team as the design team would be silly.
To the rules team there is no mistake here. The character does not have the qualifying names table, so clearly it can not use Split/Merge. For the rules team to rule that it could use it would be a horrible ruling as then they would have to come up with who it could Split/Merge into and that is not their job. It is the job of the design team.