As an opinion only, I would say Juggernaut's controller could choose either type of attack (until we hear an official answer).

I'd agree with this view.

The versatility of the attack would explain his high point cost.

Did anyone find out if the Mind Control has to be a close attack or ranged attack? I was arguing with someone yesterday about it. He was saying it has to be a close attack because if he moves in a direct line he wouldn't have line of fire to the other characters. Which makes sense. But I said what if he had Millennium Ring which gives him Improved Targeting Ignores Characters, wouldn't he be able to use Mind Control as ranged attack then since Mind Control has a minimum range. He said it still has to be a close attack.

Second question.
Since it says "targeting" instead of "to target" doesn't that mean he no longer needs to draw a ling of fire? I thought there was some other character that could Outwit or use Mind Control or something after moving through characters and didn't need to draw lines of fire because it was worded "targeting".

And with the wording being "targeting" instead of "to target" would that mean he doesn't need the Millennium Ring for it to be ranged attack roll because he no longer needs to draw lines of fire?

Millennium Ring:

Juggernaut targets each opposing character who's square that he moved through AFTER ACTIONS RESOLVE and it MUST be in a horizontal, vertical, or diagonal line. So yeah it must be a close attack

What does the "after actions resolve" matter? The power has two parts that must be met. First is that he must move through them in a direct line. After that action is done then he can use MC targeting them.

If I'm remembering correctly, Wizkids ruled on some other piece that if the wording is "targeting" instead of "to target" then the targets have already been selected and lines of fire aren't needed. Wish I could remember what figure that was so I could find the ruling. But if they are already targeted, then he wouldn't need to draw Line of Fire for Mind Control.

I'm not seeing anything in the wording that says it must be used as a close attack. If there's a Wizkids ruling we've missed that connects "moved through" powers and mandatory close attacks please let us know. Most powers that talk about moving through characters and then attacking them specifically state to make a close attack targeting them, but this one does not.

To move Diagonal, would you count the squares he actually goes into or would you count the squares intersecting it too? You count the square he lands in as having that character in it right rather he goes between 2 characters or by only one?

Rulebook: MOVEMENT THROUGH INTERSECTION POINTS

You only count the squares he moves into. He doesn't get to attack the characters in between those squares as he never actually moved through those squares.

For reference, this is (one of) the rulings demonstrating this- http://win.wizkids.com/bb/viewtopic....aa27883#p20396
As far as the ranged/close debate, as far as I can tell, you would choose which kind of attack to make. Otherwise, the power doesn't work at all in its current form, since normally, the action type given to activate MC determines the attack type, but no action is given here. If it let you use MC as a free action, you'd still be choosing whether you want it to be a ranged or close action, so I have to assume the same applies here.
Though, the usual restriction of not being able to make ranged attacks while adjacent to opposing character should still apply.

Thank you... I couldn't remember name of figure that has that "targeting" wording on Wizkids forum to save my life.

Yeah seems like being adjacent to character after the movement would restrict you to only using close attack for the Mind Control.

Wizkids finally accepted one of my questions

http://win.wizkids.com/bb/viewtopic....c498ee9#p27798


Re: WK F17-001 Juggernaut
Postby hcrulesteam » Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:35 pm

tophat00006 wrote:
Assuming Juggernaut moved through multiple characters in a direct path, and upon finishing his move is not based with any opposing character, can the active player choose whether the Mind Control is a range or close attack?

The player may choose which action type to activate Mind Control. If it is activated as a close combat action, he may make the close attack regardless of adjacency. If it is activated as a range combat action, he may make the range attack regardless of range and line of fire. Note that any other restrictions still apply (such as not being able to make a range attack while adjacent to an opposing character).

Hmm, that answer looks oddly familiar

Actually did you know all countries have ninjas? Japan's ninjas happen to be the worst, that's why everyone knows about them. Ever heard of the Irish Ninjas? Canadian Ninjas? Australian Ninjas? That's because they are amazing.

Adding a question here. I'm pretty sure the answer is no, but I'll ask anyway. Does UT,UM deal Chucks printed damage? Just mind control only, right?

Moving through characters typically doesn't damage them.