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Gravity feed is even more expensive than boosters. I know its a money grab , but star trek is a set that you want lots of generic figures. I have ton of generic guys from the first set and i love that! i bought tons of star trek for battle royal and had way more fun with that than the avengers infinity set. If they change star trek into gravity feed, we wont get those awesome battle royal battles with the star trek again. I love tmnt, but i only buy a few singles of them, because i hate overpaying for generics. Which what im going to do if this set is a gravity feed set. I think wizkids is making a huge mistake here, imagine buying gravity feed for $4 and pulling out a 50 cents figure....thats the pain you will get when you buy your new gravity feed here... and if you buy a display box and get 1 SR and no chase, that would suck too.

Im just probably going to buy singles from online shop for probably between $3 to $20. I rather spend $300+ on boosters, but if wizkids doesnt want sell boosters, than i will skip out on those gravity feeds

Agree with what a lot of people said. It's pretty clear that the people at Wizkids don't understand basic supply and demand. Raising the price per figure doesn't exactly produce higher profits. Higher prices lessens demand. $4 per fig is an extreme that a lot of people will not tolerate. It's sad because the set was lined up to be a surefire hit and WK somehow took certain profit and turned it into a possible loss. If not for them than for shop owners who will have to discount them to sell the excess that's warming shelves.

This post seems like some pretty wild speculation without numbers to back it up. How much does it cost to produce each figure including materials, packaging, licensing, and shipping? How many will WizKids produce? How many gravity feeds will they sell to distributers? At what price will WizKids sell them? How many will stores buy? How many figures will consumers buy? What will all those numbers be if they made one booster set instead of two gravity feeds?

I get your point. Consumers are likely to buy less if the price goes up. I don't think that is enough to support your claim that "It's pretty clear that the people at Wizkids don't understand basic supply and demand." But sure, it feels like poor decision because we don't like rising costs. It might be a great decision financially. We just don't have any evidence either way.

Is a bad bad bad decision from WK.

Lets hope they change their minds but right now I ratter see this product on sale as soon as possible

I was so excited to have this set coming up...it sucks they pushed it back.

I'll probably still be the sucker buying a full GF though.... anything to encourage more Trek!!

Here's the thing though the Next Generation is still fresh in some people's minds. I am not dissing the original because it's the original series but I think ST: TNG would have sold better. I did not buy TOS set but I was looking forward to this one. Hey just being honest.

There can be all sorts of reasons why there was the change in the solicitation, and I'm not sure that a WizKids rep would announce a specific reason publicly. In reality, it is probably a confluence of reasons. The licensing costs for more recent tv/film properties (in which a majority of the actors from the property are still alive) could simply be higher... and this could have an effect on both the number of units produced and the attempt to recoup the costs through a higher MSRP. there could be factors as mundane as trying to balance the number of releases using GF distribution against 5-figure booster sets within a year.

I'm personally not happy with the shift to a gravity feed, as a licensed set with the opportunity for plenty of 'generic figures' in the commons along with a somewhat large number of primes/chases/SRs means that I'm buying plenty of random 5-figure packs. My ST:TOS purchases left me a with a surprising small number of extra figures that didn't end up in one (or more!) of my "play boxes" for the set.

Contrasting 5-figure boosters against single-figure packs from a gravity feed with only 1-or-2 super rare/chase figures per feed, it's pretty much off to the secondary market for the rarer figures I want. (Good news for the WK employees and friends who get to dump rarer figures on Ebay!) The GF model worked great for the RIP Undead set which only featured 19 figures and a majority of generics, but has been absolutely horrible for TMNT sets with 12+ rare/super-rare figures and 4 chases.

My preference:

• Two Starter Sets with "core" named characters on the same power scale, designed for quick team building and play (one for Starfleet and allies, one for villains).
• A single-market (hobby), 24-character Gravity Feed set comprised of 70% generics, with the more powerful named characters (Borg Queen, Lore, Q, etc.) given Super Rare and Chase slots.
• Generics are designed to make a purchase of the feed highly appealing, possibly though a generation mechanic (i.e. Tribbles).
• Include "Golden Ticket" inserts (~1:10 cases) that award a themed neoprene map via mail away offer, while supplies last.

Subsequent GF releases follow this model.

I had a case order in and a friend had a brick. Also my friends enjoyed the sealed events with TOS a lot more than any other heroclix in ages. So far told the my store im staying away. He probably get two gravity feeds unless people order them which seems unlikely. I will play any events but man i was super excited for this set. Super bummed out. I hear wwe is gravity feed too. I would say i hate gravity feeds but the movie sets and monsters set really enjoyed them.

Locally, the stores do not stock much in the way of Gravity feeds. The sales have been so uneven, I think one local shop only bought a case (2 GFs) and the other only a single GF of the TMNT4 set. I'm sure our local stores will buy sealed GFs for any players that pre-order them, but it is unlikely that we'll have (m)any available for local purchase.

Exactly. Saying TOS boosters are shelf-warming at your local shops is tantamount to saying basically nothing. Your local shop's trends are not indicative of the market as a whole. The reason WK is doing this is the same reason they do anything; Money.

Either they think they're gonna save money on production costs, or they're gonna make more money by forcing us to buy GF packs if we want more Trek. Probably both. The stupid thing is that I would be spending a whole lot more money if they kept it 5 figure boosters. As this whole thing just smacks of exploitation and greed, I'll probably forego any sealed product at all for this set and put my money in the pockets of resellers instead of WK.

I'm not delusional, I know my money and opinion means less than jack-#### to the company and my decision has zero chance to change anything, even after sending them a civil but pointed message detailing my disappointment, and even knowing that it is a very small company that relies on the existing fanbase to market the product for them, they still don't give a flying #### about what we want as individuals.

At this point, it doesn't matter why they insist on shooting themselves in the foot with non-Big Two licenses, it only matters that they don't seem to have learned anything from past mistakes. It doesn't matter why because we have no way of changing the way they do things, we just have to accept that we are faceless money piles being courted by folks who still haven't figured out how to satisfy their core customers, much less how to entice new ones.

Star Trek TNG clix should be the thing that brings scads of new clixers into the scene, but without the existing players and collectors championing the set, nobody will know or care about it. The majority of marketing for clix is done by us, and I don't know about y'all, but I ain't doing that anymore. If I can't get excited about this terrible idea to split TNG into GFs, I sure as hell ain't gonna be the one to get any one else excited about it either.

I used to love being a Clixvangelist, proselytizing with the passion and fire like a Baptist preacher. But now I'm just jaded and bitter and done with the whole thing, like a Baptist preacher.

Aw, who am I kidding. I'm never gonna stop giving these bastards my money for some of that plastic crack.

I don't like it but I'm more likely to buy a CUR set than sealed product either way I guess.

My thoughts - good for secondary sellers who get a higher per figure return but bad for the consumer?

I have 8 Andorians & Tellerites. Guessing that sort of thing will just be too expensive for TNG which is good for my crowded shelves but bad for my ability to play just about anything.

Not sure why an explanation is "owed" to us. Decision was made for whatever reason, decision was announced, and that's that. They are a business. They do not need to explain every business decision they make any more than we need to tell them why we bought this or that but not the other thing.

My guess is most decisions are based on what sales they think they can get and sometimes licensing issues like why no Fan Four clix. Some people know, some people don't, not really their job to tell us.

Not here. They can't keep ToS in stock. Meanwhile we still have gravity feeds from batman arkham origins sitting on the shelf lol

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