actually, a little clarification...

in the beginning were booster packs... no rules... no starters...

for all of you that were NOT around for those first couple of weeks, the boosters actually shipped first, and sat on shelves because there was no support for the game in the way of "how do you actually play this game".

for us in MtG, we were able to see some of the transistional patterns of cards:

Rageki and Dark Hole = Wrath of God

Pot of Greed = holey moley

Fissure = board control

Swords of Revealing Light = just a game stopper since we didn't have Storm or anything else at that moment, besides Trap Master... although some actually did play with De-Spell.

Trap Hole = the great BEWD killer

... and where were the lands??? the energy cards??? the resouce cards???

then, there came the great Waboku debate. how do you play this card, what does it actually do. in Japan, the ruling supposedly changed and even their game didn't know how the card worked. it was played the correct way, then changed due to some incorrect interpretation, then later (almost until MRL was released) was finally corrected, but utterly misplayed EVERYWHERE.

then, shipments of the product tended to stop. a "printed to order" statement was released and told that YGO was only printed to what the stores actually ordered. conflicting reports of "secondary market support" floated around, but when a couple pallets of 1st edition LOB showed up at San Diego Comicon that summer, and UDE priced it at retail while others on the floor had it somewhere at $5 to $10 per pack, the secondary market began scratching their heads. all eventually worked out, and things like that were quickly forgotten due to the TP series and Mechanical Chaser that arrived the same week to stores.

then judges did what they wanted. they didn't bother to actually learn the game, but played it, AND taught it, in such a way that they, AND their friends, could actually WIN. i ran into so many tournaments that judges did what they wanted and the players didn't have the knowledge to understand they were being taken advantage of. the amazing thing was that if you knew how to play the game, and were aware of how these judges were tweaking the rules, most of the time you could actually still win the game just by playing by the rules.

somehow the game did manage to survive those first couple of months until MRL was released and everything tended to smooth itself out after that.

but i still remember that the Wizard's stores only ordered two booster boxes PER STORE (not cases, just boxes), and those were gone within a couple of days. dealer support was thin since it had been a long dry spell from the end of Pokemon and nothing had lasted over a couple of months... well... except MtG... but that's another story altogether...

>.< I feel so horrible for running a warrior chaos deck. I might go back to my goo dold pal red eyes if I feel like losing, but losing with pride. In fact, agentmage....you've inspired my love for redeyes again! Thank you, thank you very much!

ReK~99

Hey!!! I always play Red Eyes with pride, he's in my current dragon/fiend deck. Basic beat down with a nice added punch with Red Eyes support cards and even that Red Eyes Darkness Dragon that came out in a structure deck. To be honest, I gave up player in tournaments because I didn't want to play with the same deck as everyone else. It usually boiled down to who could get their BLS out first. It got old really fast. Now I'm experimenting with beast decks, burn decks and any other deck that can be made with non-chaos themes in it. Its more fulfulling to play someone with a deck you can say you made yourself. True most of the cards in any deck tend to be the same, but its the rest that matters. The ban was a great idea cause people actually had to think about cards they had to use to replace those nasty staple cards. Funny thing was, even with the ban, decks still looked the same. One person comes up with an idea and the next guy copies, and so on and so on. I guess I'll never step foot in a tourney again :disappoin

I think I can honestly say that the tourny I now play at his stepped away from Chaos. Last week I encountered a single Chaos deck, the rest were Zombie, Burn, Harpy(yes, Harpy! ...AND it got 5th place!), Angel, Dragon, Horus, and a few others. Whereas a year ago, it was mostly Chaos there.

ok i want some of your thoughts about what i think should happen. in the near future all the old cards need to be banned. still make them but not for tournament play. make it more like the show where these cards amazing cards are super hard to find so that every second person might have an awesome card. an end to beatdown would happen and people would focus more on strategy.plus this also gives them a chance to rewrite cards they wanna use so they are clearer. i still think dark necrofear should be able to be normal summoned. i know what ur saying oh u cant u cant u cant, why not i say to that? so it can only be special summoned by removing three dark monster. does it say it can only be special summoned or the monster cannot be normal summoned. they could use the new cards to fix all that, and not make all these steal cards and maybe get rid of that stupid delinquent duo card. the game doesnt allow you to have alot of cards in your hand and usually u end up with none anyways so if they draw delinquent than ur hurtin. bah anyways tell me what u think

the age of chaos is dead and gone for 6 reasons:

1. Warrior - more and more, and the are big on the swarm effect and big ATK... BLS can kill 1 3000+ or 2 3000- but not anything more...if warrior gets a new big hitter idk say a card in a structure deck set for this january... it just might have a winner...

2. Water - ALO + Gravity bind x a flield nuking 2900ATK'er / Virus AND Mobius? i see a winner here too.

3. Machine - CRV has this one monster...and it has 4000ATK and piercing...not to mention a card that can make it (or any other machine fusion) double that... not to bad...

4. Zombie - Vamp lord is making a comeback and if you thought he was hard to kill before...try now that he has been reduced to only limited AND had Vamp. Genisis... trust me, if two 2000ATK deck eaters that wont die from M/T are bad... one of them changing into a 3000ATK monster reborn'er is worse...

5. Dragon - ah our old friends the dragons... with a 3000ATK beast that negates spells FOR FREE... and our old BEWD helped out by dragun king's effect... not to mention the possiblity of 4500ATK BEUD coming soon (thus unleashing Shining...a whole other rant) BEWD and its friends may once agian claim the game it started way back in LOB

6. E-HEROES - i promise NO ONE will see it coming... when a EHERO deck wins... with enough support to sink a ship, and great effects all around if you ask me Eheroes just might be THE HEROES we were waiting for.

So if you're playing Chaos...it might be a good idea to take a look around... before your precious BLS becomes just another piece of cardboard

Thats it. It's Gone to far. You people really bother me. GET OVER IT. It's not going away, don't expect it too. Thats sad that you get so mad about a single deck in a format. You really need to realize that in THIS card game there is NO originality. There is BARELY any skill cause of how broken some cards are. Thats why this is dumb. Thats why no matter how many ban lists or how many erratas, this game wont change. Decks that are dominant will always be dominant. Take a few cards away, who cares. The tier 1 decks( best decks for those of you who dont know what tier 1 means) are ever changing and ever growing and will continue to change and grow as the format changes. Don't be stupid and think just because a couple of cards came out the format got completely changed. NO. As new cards and combos come out the format EVOLVES into what it is. Think about this beatdown evolves into
Yata, yata evolves into contol, control evolves into CHAOS and chaos evolves into BLS. Now there is TER and TSUK. BLS will go, and every TIER 1 deck will play TSUK and METAMORPHASIS. Thats whats dumb. THATS what I DONT get.

And then TERyummieness will still be far easier to deal with and FAR more forgiving than BLS ever was. You will rarely hear "Aww man I lost the second he played TER. There is no single card in Teryummieness that wins the game, nor does the combo, though it does make it signifigantly harder to win.

By your logic, Jet, there shouldnt even be a banned list. We should all go back to OTK and Chaos decks. It may be a new deck played over and over, but at least it would be something other than what we've had for the past year. if the list actualy FORCES the top deck to change, it brings some chalange to the game. Its hard for even a group of duelists the size of realms to truely break the game in 6 months.

I run tourney at 2 different stores each weekend I can says that chaos is starting to go down also. I use an order deck with my needle worms soul release and even dissappear. My daughter uses a light deck one that will fight with chaos anyday, but right now water is coming back and just to let you know machine rocks now with gear golem. My mech chaser and jinzo love gear golem thats the next big deck to worry about.

The Yum with TLC is a combo, BLS is not. BLS alone says gg nub. Combo'ed, should I say, with other cards, the % of winning goes from 99% to 99.9%. Slight change, but harder. Yum w/ TLC is a 3 card combo. Uses your summon for the turn. I'd rather deal with Yum w/ TLC then BLS. Although, ironic as it sounds, the crutch is seeming to be easier to kill nowadays. Who'd a thunk it?
Thank you,
Azurai Aeon

Keep in mind that the Crutch is more easily killed than the Psycho Android Shocker, but in substitution, kills far more easily.

Broken is everywhere...

In all the life lessons I've learned, one of the most important things (which most should be familiar with) is that the future will eventually become the present, and during that time, everything changes. As Agent, and many others, points out in his article, everything has gone through subtle changes from one form of style to a completely different form, and the evolution still continues. So eventually, getting sick of chaos becomes pointless. And we can't rely on a new ban list because that spawns new originality, which turns into creating a new winning theme, which then turns into a common theme, which finally turns into this sickness everyone catches that makes people hate this common deck type. I'm sticking with changing rules in addition to a ban list if the game gets tiring (which Konami is slowly, but surely doing). That way, the ban list itself doesn't get tired and predictable, but at the same time kills "ordinary-ness".

Machine will not rule, it will just have more support cards. E-heros will also have more support along with bubbleman! But one lone warrior will meet the cookie cutter. Ben kei. When the warrior structure deck(what?! that's right!) comes out, they're making a new card that GREATLY helps out ben kei (don't remember the name or effect). Thing is, u'll start off having 3 of them in ur deck. And other card, Especially since royal decree is much easier to get ur hands on now...