Perhaps I'm missing something in the thread here....but there is no option as how to resolve the effects of Sangan and Raiza the Storm Monarch. Sangan is placed first onto the Chain because its Trigger Effect activated when it was Tributed, we're in the middle of a summon thought obviously so Sangan's mandatory effect waits to resolve, Raiza is summoned and it's mandatory effect activates. Sangan is chain link 1 and Raiza is chain link 2....no choice is present as to the order of resolution.

See the following judge list post...

http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/o...st/748971.aspx

So if you tribute Sangan for Raiza, both effect automaticly chain to eachother. There no way I can chain Divine Wrath to Sangan's effect before Raiza is chained to it?

Actually I believe the turn player gets priority on stacking Spell Speed One effects that essentially happen at the same time. Correct me if Im wrong.

It matters whether they are of the same effect level, meaning, Mandatory versus Optional. A Mandatory Effect (Sangan) will always resolve last if it is activated at the same time as a Optional Effect (Mobius).

If the are of the same class, such as "Sangan versus Zaborg", then you can choose which one goes bang first.

Even that is false. Peten is proof of that.

How so?

How does Peten even matter at the moment?

Well, if you have the answer, you dont need to ask the question.

Peten has no bearing in this because it's effect timing is completely different.

That is a very interesting post, I didn't realize that time-stamping now deals with effects that activate during a resolving chain.

This could be an interesting change . . .

I tribute Peten for Zaborg.

Peten being the optional effect MUST come before Zaborg according to his explanation. Yet we know that doesnt happen.

Right, because optional effects must be the LAST thing that happened in order for them to activate.

Now here's a chain where Peten comes before a mandatory:

I summon Sangan while I have a peten on the field, the opponent activates, and resolves, Torrential Tribute.

Sangan - CL 1

Peten - CL2

Peten will resolve before Sangan.

That's how I explained it. A Mandatory Effect resolves "last"....

If you're referring to Sangan being tributed for Zaborg, the result will be the same chain building as Sangan being tributed for Thestalos. What I think people are failing to realize here is that when Sangan is tributed and sent to the graveyard (the Monarch has yet to be summoned, it doesn't happen simultainiously) Sangan's trigger effect activates at this time....it just waits to resolve, Sangan's effect is already on the chain waiting to resolve BEFORE Zaborg is ever summoned, since we're in the middle of a summon though Sangan's effect waits to resolve, once Zaborg's summon is successful it's trigger effect now activates and adds to the chain Sangan is already on. There is no choice of how the effects resolve.

Which is what I was beginning to suspect right now. I mean, if you did have a say ... you could remove Peten before the next effect goes off. Which you cant.