Dragon Master- Like I said I want the crap ultimates as throw ins, NOT as the main portion of the trade. That is unless you give me an insane amount of crappy ults (over 50). So no for that offer.

Everyone should be shooting to top a seer and a cyber.

i'm out then, thanx for your time

Hey you skipped me. Can you check my list for your Vennominaga? Thanks. Also is there any autowin?

cyber dragon (tin)...and YAY!

Sorry Duelmaster, here is what I like from your list:

2 Grandmaster promos
1 ult mobius
Jinzo

There is no set auto win. Just offer me something that blows out the leading bid and I may just end the auction early!

ill go crystal seer mint 1st, 2 cydra, ulti 1st mint twister.

1x Mobius the Frost Monarch (90% Ult Rare)
2x Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch (Mint Ult Rare and 95% Super Rare)

4 Venominaga

If not enough cml for more

Tay- You are the new leader with 1 seer, 2 cydra, 1 ult. twister.

dcd- Sorry that doesnt beat tay's offer. The only thing I saw on your list is trooper.

Can you check my friend's list then to add to my offer?

I can offer a PSV Jinzo and something else. Check my list for something to add to it.

duelmaster4ever- PSV Jinzo, DB1 Jinzo, and 2 Grandmaster promos, and a few crappy ults/hls would put you in the lead.

darkcyberdragon- didnt see anything on your friends list, sorry.

Well that would be ripping myself a new one tho to do that. I want to offer something of fair value for it without ripping myself in the process. The promo Grandmaster by itself is going for the same value of the Vennominaga if not more so by doing all of those that would be stupid on my part. I can do PSV Jinzo and about 3-5 or so crappy ultimates if you wish and can do a Darkbright or I could throw in some other holos if there is something within reason for me to do so that wouldn't be ripping me off.

So I guess I can offer
Jinzo
Darkbright
Desert Twister
3-5 crappy ultimates

or check for something else instead to add to Jinzo to even the values.

promo grandmaster = deity??? are u NUTS!!! promo g-master = 20-30$$ tops. deity = 40-60$$

and if u want the card and dnt want to rip yaself off but cant beat a bid then dont bother...

No I am not nuts. If you check the prices you will see that promo Grandmaster is going for more than that since the new ban list.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Yugioh-Grandmast...em170144660918

That was one that ended today and I keep up with current values of cards. Vennominaga is going for about $45-55 on ebay and that auction ended today at $51 just for promo Grandmaster alone.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Yugioh-Grandmast...em330160211163

This second one ended about the same time as the first one and it went for $45. I'll bid what I think is fair for a card and try to bid things that a person wants. Don't get mad and upset if someone considers things off of someone elses lists besides yours. If you really want to get technical about it PSV Jinzo is worth more than Crystal Seer is going for. Ultra Seer is only going for $20-25 while PSV Jinzo is going for $30+. This PSV Jinzo is already at $48 with time to go so I think my bid is fair for the card, especially with Jinzo being semi-limited and people are really wanting him more. I am aware that Jinzo on average doesn't go for that much (usually around $30+) but it just goes to show that the value of the card is on the rise again.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Yu-gi-oh-JINZO-P...em300145264247

sorry duelmaster, I didnt know that grandmaster was going for that much.

as for your most recent offer, please do not offer things that arent on my want list and/or arent what I have picked out of your haves. Tay is still the leader.