That is what pisses me off about the guass rifles and PPCs too. The guass rifle is supposed to send that metal slug at near the speed of light velocity, yet there is still quite a time delay. PPCs are a focuse beam of plasma I think (really really strong laser) and should be just as fast as a "real" laser. All of the games gave them time delays like every day weapons would have.

What ever gave you the idea that guass rifles accelerate their slugs to near light speed? They accelerate them to just past the speed of sound! Keep in mind, a compact piece of metal that weighs as much as a Volkswagon is going to pack a LOT of energy when it hits going 700+ mph.

MW4 is joke is not worthy of carrying the FASA title. It has been stupified so that a quake player can play it. MW2 was the closet to the Fasa creation.

Like was said earlier, Gauss technology is not treated right nor PPC. Gauss Tech moves at a speed that it should hit the target almost instant it is shot. As for PPC, your shooting a freaking lightning bolt. If you ever watch a a lightning bolt strike from the heavens to the ground its happens like NOW. The distance from the clouds to the ground is 100 fold futher then between mechs.
you can build mechs configs that is impossible according to the Fasa rules on which it was based AND if you play online its freaking boreing. NO talent in the arenas just a bunch of cross tech jumper/quake heads with no skill.

I hope MW5 restores some of its roots back to MW2 and DOES not allow level 3 tech.

We can only dream.

there will be no mw5. all games from now on will be console titles, sadly.

SAD.. very sad. consoles are so far behind PC titles when it comes to strategy and muli-play capabilites. Very restrictive and limited on functionality. Ever notice how console are becomeing more and more like a PC.. They got keyboards, harddrives now..hummm and they say the console is superior to the PC.


DOn't think so.

I just wish that MW could run at a level of complexity of Steel Battalion with a big freaking controller. I would cry.

There are frequent references to Gauss slugs as "Hypersonic" - meaning you are looking at muzzel velocities of around Mach 5. This would seem a little OTT as that impact with a 100kg Melon of ferro-nickel compound would evicerate the target.

The physics (awoooga! awoooga! Dangerous ground - talking Physics and Mechwarrior!) of pulse lasers is based around the concept of how Battlemech armour vapourises when hit by a beam - the result of the vapourisation process is that the gas burn off defuses the beam of a "standard laser" - the pulse laser sends shorter bursts that give a sufficient moment for some of that gas to dissapate and by virtue of vapourising less armour with each shot, cause more damage.

The increased accuracy comes from the staggering of the beam, allowing the laser to be retargeted, an improved fire control enhanced by less of the target being obscured by the lasers' vapourisation process, and because each new shot that acquires the target is more likely to hit with more power than tracking with a beam.

Lordy, my head hurts... :confused:

I love the sound of the lasers in MW3 Pirate's Moon too, they have that nice satisfying POP.:)
MW4 is just a steaming load of ####, in my humble opinion, hehehe.

The Gauss Rifle, Mass Driver, Rail gun however you call it works by Excelotating a Slug the size of a wattermellon to near the speed of light......

Gren, NO IT DOES NOT! Even apart from the absurdity of accelerating an 1/8th ton mass to near light speed in an atmosphere (not to mention the impossible energy requirements -- yes, even with a fusion reactor for power) "hypersonic" is no where near lightspeed! Show me ONE place where it's stated that a Battletech/Mechwarrior guass rifle accelerates its projectile up to that speed, and I'll get off your case.

Since no such reference exists, however, I won't get off your case.

Plain and simple, all of you claiming "near light speed" are WRONG!

Well a Gauss Rifle, Partical Excelorator, Mass driver ect, are Generally thought to do just that, Excellorate things to near the speed of light with Electro magnits.

And you herd this where?

Not that a watermellon-sized chunk of metal moving at hypersonic speeds would not be enough to cause horrific damage already...

Gauss slugs move at Mach speeds, not lightspeed or even close. While Battletech plays with reality quite a bit, that is just patently ridiculous. Try looking up some of Einstein's equations and calculate the energy it would take to accelerate even a kilogram of matter to say, 90% of lightspeed. Stars do not put out that kind of energy, let alone a portable fusion reactor. Even for interstellar travel, BT uses "space warp" jumps to instantaneously travel stellar distances, rather than FTL engines.

Gauss weapons would require a lead like any other ballistic weapon. Of course, the lead would be so small as to be just amout immesurable at ranges less than a kilometer or so.

No, they don't -- not even in general!

It is possible you are confusing the abilities of particle accelerators like at CERN and FermiLab, which do indeed use giant magnets to propel things up to 99.999% of lightspeed, but what they're doing that to are subatomic particles, like protons -- which is a far cry from an 1/8th ton metallic slug. Plus those facilities are HUGE: they are literally miles in diameter!

Simply put, you are WRONG and I will not stop saying this as long as you persist in stating as facts things that aren't. Show me one reference from ANYWHERE that a mass driver or guass gun is said to propel things to near lightspeed -- anywhere such a thing is used as a weapon, as a means of moving cargo/ore around, or for any other purpose at all...show me just one!

You can't.

I think PPCs move at the speed of light, but I know for a fact Gauss Rifles move only at hypersonice.


I could be wrong about the PPC thing though, so please dont hurt me:rolleyes: