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Originally posted by Razorfang given the 1 in 1x10^-64 chance that wizkids aktually do something good, i would agree, faction purity is a good thing. but small alliance groups should be allowed, because there _are_ "allied" and "not that much disliking each other" factions. like 200/100
And now that Banson will soon become a Liao noble and is marrying into the royal family, Banson's and Liao will be allied.
Talk about power.......
Other than that the only allies are ROTS and Highlanders that I know of.
Im all for ANYTHING that Is facton Pure, Im such a Purest that i even go so far as to play REGEMENTAL Facton pure. and let me tell ya, aint nothing more challangeing than winning with a pure faction pure regement Army, and i do it regular basis, as my ranking shows.
We always play faction pure, but I also I like the 1/month idea.
I'd like to point out to those that said that they play FP but lose more often, that this is normal when playing FP in an non-FP environment. The opponent has an army-construction edge. It's quite different when all players play FP, kind of like in Faction Wars.
I say kind of, because mercs make a huge difference, covering up for the inefficiencies of many factions. The DF get an RV and decent arty. The SC get a cap3 transport. The BR a decent attack Vtol etc.
Anyway, I can understand why players who have played without this limitation for so long would be opposed to seeing this change become universal. This is why I think 1/month is best. WK can see how much the players like it and take it from there... :)
I must vote no on faction purity. I rather like spicing my armies up from time to time with other units. Considering I field no unpainted converted units other then mercs and stormhammers, I consider all my pieces to be mercs. My Swordsworn are my personal merc faction, my Liao are Hanson's Roughriders now, my steel wolves are now kell hounds, my dragon's fury are now blue star irregulars.
besides, a lot of players do not have the pieces to play faction pure on a regular basis. Forcing faction purity attracts no new players. If they have to shell out all that cash to make a decent faction army, why get into it? Besides, some factions will be completely outclassed. Plus, if you're going to make faction purity, then what about mercs. A lot of faction purists are against mercs and won't be happy unless you ban them too. Other purists like mercs, and will be ticked if you do.
Faction purity is a bad idea that doesn't even look good on paper.
@Maniac:
So it could be that no repainted non-faction pure army may not be played, thing that would force players repaint they minis to some unit taken from CBT canon. Units like Falcon Guard or Sword of Light Regiments would return and we could just say good by for Dark Age and play game before Republic. This lightens little bit my opinion.
Originally posted by Maniac Faction purity is a bad idea that doesn't even look good on paper.
I agree with Godfried about the 1 faction pure event per month
idea. This could be in addition to the regular events. Don't have
the requisite pieces to play faction pure? No prob. Just don't
register for the event. Stick to your regular events. Just like
people who don't have the units to play faction pure shouldn't
be forced to, likewise those that do have both the units and
desire to play faction pure shouldn't be penalized for wanting to.
It works both ways.
I can see the difficulty of beginning players fielding faction pure forces that are competent. I was once a beginning player, as were we all, and most of us didn't have or want to immediately sink a hundred bucks or more into the game (with little/no familiarity with it) just to try it out. To build an army that is capable of winning against a well constructed army, even a faction pure opponent, requires a fairly decent collection, considering you want the best or at last "first tier" pieces from that faction and boosters are quite random. Even if you buy a premier pack and ten boosters, chances are good you'll have to spend at least another $50 and a decent amount of time and effort trading just to build up a competitive selection of a single faction, maybe two.
That being said, I love faction purity. I really think it should be very strongly encouraged, but not made a requirement (reasons already mentioned above). Now for National and World tournaments? Hell yeah, enforce faction purity there. How many players get to that level and can't scrape up a good FP force of their faction of choice? Oh yeah, most of them don't HAVE a faction of choice, just things like the SS Balac and Towed AA, Arnis, BR Peasants, DF Donars, etc.
Keep in mind that I try to make at least half of my armies faction pure, with exceptions for when I want to try out a new piece or two and can't build a FP force around it because I lack the quantity and/or quality of units for that faction to do so. Also, at least 75% of my faction pure forces are Highlanders (sometimes SC, ocne in a blue moon DF or SS). Eat me, cheesemongers.
Originally posted by Flushmaster That being said, I love faction purity. I really think it should be very strongly encouraged, but not made a requirement (reasons already mentioned above). Now for National and World tournaments? Hell yeah, enforce faction purity there.
Eat me, cheesemongers.
I agree with you. As I stated above, I don't think it should be a
requirement, either. I think it should be an additional monthly
event to give those who want to square off with faction pure
armies the chance to do so. I like the idea of enforcing it at
Nationals and Worlds, though. For all the reasons you
mentioned.
As for the last statement, I say, 'Rock on!' :grin:
Originally posted by David Wilson I agree with Godfried about the 1 faction pure event per month
idea. This could be in addition to the regular events. Don't have
the requisite pieces to play faction pure? No prob. Just don't
register for the event. Stick to your regular events. Just like
people who don't have the units to play faction pure shouldn't
be forced to, likewise those that do have both the units and
desire to play faction pure shouldn't be penalized for wanting to.
It works both ways.
I'd sign on for this idea. I don't think it is a good idea to require _all_ tournaments to be faction pure, but having one faction pure tournament a month is something I whole-heartedly support.
I also like Flushmaster's idea of making Nationals and Worlds Faction Pure. Then each National or Worlds event would essentially be a mega-faction war for a specific planet. Works for me ;)
Originally posted by broman10 And now that Banson will soon become a Liao noble and is marrying into the royal family, Banson's and Liao will be allied.
Talk about power.......
Other than that the only allies are ROTS and Highlanders that I know of.
ROTS and SS were allied against SW (call to arms)
just as an example.
all alliances should be possible, but no more than 2 factions in 1 army, because this would occur only very seldom.
Faction purity would decrease cheese armies becouse all factions don't have everything. Ofcourse some factions are more powerful thus they would leave some other factions to shadow but this would give WK reason to conserrate to those weaker factions. They would make expansions without those more powerful factions thus conserratin to those factions that need some good or otherway specialised units(SC would get cap 3 transport more easily).
Originally posted by Joppu We need rule that removes all those mixed armies and allows only faction purity in both frendly and tuornament play. When there was first talk about faction purity i was against it but not anymore. It makes me angry when i see mixed armies when there is 9 factions with they strenghts and weakneses but people seem to favor picking best units from diffirent factions. Only mercs could be used with chosen faction and rest units would have to be from chosen faction.
Tell that to the ROTS players once CA comes out and they have no new toys and are still behind other factions. I do play them, but usually only with my HL's and SS. I play my HL's by themselves but would not be able to field an army of ROTS on their own or SS (lack of pieces not choices).
I vote for Faction purity .... our ventue is plagued by a cheese player (his armies usaully always have a SSw Balac or SH DI Towed + Katsu or Arnis) ...
lets have them once a month (with good prizes)
new players, well if you guys are so conserned about them ... THEN LET THEM BORROW YOUR UNITS...