People, people, people, I'm not complaining or even saying HL or RotS got it rough, I am saying that WizKid's choice was not wise economically.

I agree, BF.

If you don't give everyone a little something in each set, you disenfranchise a group of buyers.

This game, for many at least, instills a sense of loyalty. That can and will, I believe, translate into sales numbers.

IOW, in the sets where the most numerically popular Factions are dis'ed, sales will be hurt -- all other factors (such as #'s players buyers) being equal.

There is currently absolutely nothing for me in CounterAssualt. I already have enough HL doorstops (Uller, CrimsonHawk) and golf ties ( HL Lego).

So, thanks Wizkids, not only do you constantly shaft HL, you now have given no reason to buy any more MW.

Look for another large collection going on eBay.:(

HL4ever, if you're looking for a prospective buyer of HL Legionnaires, let me know the next time you put one up. I rather have a fondness for them myself and have used them effectively before. =P A trio of them is nothing to scoff at. *Grin*

yes, it is a good practise for a company to get out a product 'for' the holidays, after it. But if WK did release the product earlier, it'll clash with the other products that are coming out, and more MW players will whine that a new expansion is coming too fast.

:p

My goal is to go from over 30,000 points to under 5,000 by New Year.

SW and SC go on ebay tomorrow!

Flames of War here I come!

PS. Have 4 or 5 HL Legos. Let me know what you want.

Actually, I think we have reached the break-point.

I suspect that Wk will have set "A" which features 3-4 factions, followed by set "B" for the others. There are just too many factions to do them all justice every time.

Logically from two factions, HL and RotS, its RotS that needs more units becouse first RotS units were in DFA and HL has been since DA, after all DA was first set.

Forget the aspect of 'whining' altogether. If the current marketing plan holds, every Faction will be crying sooner or later.

Back to the topic - if each Faction got 15 units each, that wouldn't be too large of a set IMHO.

Does that quote also include LEs? That makes quite a difference in calculating units for a set.

The math is really simple.

If the average set is 120, and there are 2 new factions added, bringing the total to 12, then every faction can have 10 units. 1 Unique each, plus 9 other non-unique units.

That makes the odds of finding "your" faction in a booster even, no matter which faction you go for. Odds of finding a partiular piece, still stay in the ridiculous realm, but if you open a booster, you could find one of four factions in that booster. 4/12 giving you about a 33.33333% chance of getting your faction.

You go right back to the old way of collecting. Buy a case, get 8 uniques, trade off the duplicates for ones you didn't get. Buy two cases, get a complete set, probably, trade off the extras, give them away as birthday presents, sell them, whatever.

Of course with more factions (the present count goes up to around 46 faction possibilities, including all of the clans, plus merc outfits, houses, and so on) then you start having problems with how many units each faction will get. But I don't see more than 15 factions coming into the game total. Fine, make it 3 expansions a year, with 150 pieces per expansion, 15 uniques. I for one would gladly keep up with a reasonalble schedule. But five expanions in 11 months is a bit much. When WK asked the then 'volunteers' at Origins 2002 how many expansions to make for 2003, the overwhelming response was 3. Then they turned around and made 4. Adding CA in the first week of the new year adds the fifth. Lets not forget we just got FFE in Feb 2002, after waiting 6 months to get the first expansion.

Admittedly, there are more important issues, but if you turn away 10% of your sales base with every expansion, that's not a good sign. This time it's ROTS. Next time, maybe it will be SW, SC, SwSw or DF. Maybe even BnR or HL.

No big deal that ROTS players are unhappy? What about when its your faction that gets left out?

And to correct a misstatement, MK never completely left a faction out. Even when they only got a few figures, every faction was represented in some way.

OK. I play HL. So, I figured a logical secondary force would be RotS. Well, since HL gets 8 units and RotS gets none, why would I even consider buying CA boosters?

I wouldn't. And that is the problem. It isn't just 10% of the players they have alienated in this set.

I will concentrate on the secondary market and make trades until WK starts making the products I collect again. That's not an angry threat - it's simply the common sense outcome of their marketing decision.

Also, one other question, why did the SC get such a plethora of pieces in the set, when they were not even touted as one of the factions behind the theme of the Counterassault set? If I'm wrong, didn't they get the most pieces out of the set?