Oh yeah, do not disregard the boring heat dial on this mech, either.

Only a single minor ammo explosion on the last click, minor heat-sink overloads and shut down rolls on the last 2.

And not many negative numbers.

It will be interesting if they bring back one of the other Cappellan Mechs. The Yu Huang would be cool, however they would do well to lower its jump movement, considering it IS an assault...

I would love to see them bring back the Warhammer IIC as well...such a gorgeous sculpt is begging for pilot & gear cards!!

Wow, perfect Mech to lead an army with a Kelswa drop from one of their R10, and a Paladin, and Long Tom to lay coverfire. Add in faction pride and watch it go.

You're kidding right?

This Mech will be sitting on the shelf next to all the other unplayed units unless WK has some kind of gear card that can pump up its AV on an AO or let it use HB on an AO. Otherwise it'll make a nice display piece.

Another mediocore LE for Liao. 4 damage for a 199 point mech is underpowered combined with a mere 3 energy attack on the primary. The Homing beacon is over rated because you cant assault with it. The only redeeming quality is a good base defense and heat dial.

In short, way too many points spent on homing beacon. Id rather see less clicks of homing beacon, one click of 10 attack, and a few clicks of 5 ballistic damage. Over all, I hope the rest of the Liao uniques get are alot better than this.

Dont even talk about that silly 1, 1, 1 pilot! Insult to injury wizkids will probally release a heavy hero card making my legendary pilot junk!

Given a chance, the mech is decent if you relegate it to a support role. Too bad it does not have the "ooh and aah" factor that other Uniques have. I really hope the OTHER unique from Liao would rock!

I feel for Liao players looking for their next hero for heavy mechs. The Liao Loki rocks but would have been done more justice if some +2 attack +1def pilot for Liao would come out. That would make the mech much better to use, rather than relying on foreigner Gunslingers like Alberto De Jesus and Adam Stark at the helm.

Come on WK, give Liao a jaw-dropping-show-stopping unique! (it would suck if the uber Liao would be hard-to-find LEs).



- Oliver

I got a few Liao buddies, this set is the one that they have been waiting for before Clan Wolf gets all the love yet again from WK in Wolf Strike.

On top of that, since the Liao Avalanche seems to look great, maybe we will see a cool medium Liao pilot who will give it +2 +2 +1 stats or something great.

Here's to hoping for the next preview!

Funny. Liao gets a decent 'Mech and people start complaining that it is not spectacular enough. But if WizKids had made this 'Mech as excellent and elite as beforementioned people demand, you just know that other people would call it overpowered and/or broken. Oh well, apparently the internet is the place to go when you want to moan and complain.

*grimace*
And we continue the theme of HORRIBLE Cappelan name puns.

Wan Lau

Huang Lau? That's just PAINFUL. :speechles (Especially when you combine the two names. Wan Huang Lau anyone?)

Istal Devalis, I'm afraid I don't get it. I guess it must be my lack of humor... could you please explain it to me?

Support Role Mech? a 234 pt mech with perfered piliot without gear in a 600 point game? For 234 points without gear its should be your heavy hitter. Like I said before.. for its points its lack offense, accuracy on assaut and defense is too slow to risk using the homing beacon without being nuetralized without firing a shot. I can see it a 900+ senerio.. but next to no use in a 600 point game.

We don't want an overpowered or broken piece, just one on par with the other signature mechs other factions have received. Compare this thing to the HK Shiros and the RD Karhus, which are the signature Mechs of those factions. Does this thing really compare? I think not. Now compare it to the Republic Nova Cat and Loki and the non-unique Nova Cats. Nope still doesn't compare. This Mech is mediocre at best.

Compare it to the CJF Gyrfalcon. Watch the metaphorical light bulb come on over your head. Nod your head sagely. Welcome to the Lame Side.

Its amazing how the factions that Wk seems to favor (ROTS, NC/SC, and HK/DF) get decent, game playable pieces. Factions that they dislike get really cool display pieces.

I'm reserving judgement on the Gyrfalcons until they release a unique, AOD compatible version.

I'm pretty unimpressed, too, but to be fair:

This can't really be compared to the Shiros. Those start at 232 points and go up to 258 points, WITHOUT pilots, and this one is 234 points WITH unique pilot. Shiros are more like bottom-end Assault 'Mechs than Heavy 'Mechs.

The Karhus are 192 and 208 points without pilots, and the more expensive one maxes out at 3 damage primary and secondary, as well. Plus it also only has a +1/+1/+1 pilot, which takes it up to 246 points. The cheaper Karhu actually goes up to 4 damage primary at the end of its dial, but it loses its secondary weapon entirely, then, and its primary is energy so it'll fare poorly at range against infantry at that point. It's also lacking the Jump Jets on the first 8 clicks of the dial that the more expensive one has, which must be where those extra points went.

The Republic Nova Cat and Loki are better comparisons to point out this 'Mech's shortcomings, when bare, though they're still 14 and 17 points more expensive, respectively. Their pilots are REALLY expensive, though, kicking them up to 261 and 268 total.

The non-unique Nova Cats are all a bit more expensive, starting at 13 and going up to 18 points more. They're also mostly min/maxed energy boats, with three of the four not even having secondary damage values. With only energy weapons they excel against other 'Mechs and vehicles, but fall down against swarms of infantry or lots of blocking terrain. This unit is much more well-rounded, even if it doesn't excel at one particular role. (Although pegging something at 14" with Homing Beacon for a follow up shot by something like a Liao Kelswa drop wouldn't be a bad use. Imagine combining this with the Liao-Republic SA...)

-= Lunatic