if sweep keeps you oppents from swarming your fig isn't that a good ability even if you don't use it to its full extent. Though there is one good figure that can use sweep and that is orc captian a charge of 7 and sweep

The Maelstrom Golem is great in this situation. It is one of the bet sweepers, but is also relatively cheap. It leaves room for a good Ml guy. Like a Magus for example. The Magus ML the Maelstrom into base contact with something, and whether or not they swarm it it still deishes out death, while the Magus supports it from range. This is an example of supporting your SA figures.

So wait, how many point army are you running here? You have 68+85=153 points tied up in a "fling the Maelstrom to sweep" portion of your army. I hope you're running a 300 point army. Second, you can only fling 10", but your magus covers a 12" MB! Who is within 10" of you to fling at? And why aren't you MBing them? Maybe you should replace the magus with a technomancer, or the Maelstrom with a dwarven axe knight or something...

Of course, if I wanna sweep, I use the Gate Lord. Make a 300 point army with only heavy hitters - GL, ***Fell Reaper, *** Heavy Lancer, *** War Hatchetkrugg, your favorite 6 or so big baddies. Then make them pick a target. If they do swarm the GL, sweep. If they don't, go get 'em, tiger! You'll be able to either sweep two figs attacking one of your other pieces, of break away and fill the spot where the swarmed piece was with the GL. Then push to sweep for 5 damage - don't worry, there will no one worth while left to hit you when you're done!

Bri

If you want real beats, put a gatey in an AG chariot. but any ways, sweep is one of thbe most under used SA's in the game that deservses to be used.

i haven't been playing long and already i find something that drove me nuts when i played magic the gathering and that is people proclaiming that this ability or that is stupid or useless

number one: mageknight has been heavily play tested by people who are payed to make this a fun fair game

number two: instead of thinking about what you don't get, think about what you will get, the good side of that ability, and/or how your enemy will react to it and then how do you use that reaction and/or benfit to your advantage

you can hit several enimies at once. why is that usless? they dont come to you? go to them! tey are great passengers on chariots. they run away from you? herd them like sheep to the slaughter. think a little broader. you know you want to.

Well....the gate lord is much more bigger than the Maelstron....and that´s why I would use him...so imagine this:

Maelstron+Gate Lord+Orc Captain...now we have a threat.:D

Orc Cap!!..I hate him and his sweep ability...he's giving me a hard time in conquest games:mad:

I love sweep with chariots, Blue Dwarven Axe Knight 43 pts, and KI charger 101 pts. 11 attack 180' arc for 3 dmg is pretty nasty in my opinion for 144 points...

Soul,

I have only played one game of conquest, but how can the Orc Cap be giving you such a hard time? He's a unique - swarm him with nons. He pushes, swarm him again. Then he's in trouble. He has no effective defensive SA v. close combat. Mess him up! ;-)

Bri

You obiosully seem to be a newbie who dosen't appreciate decent stuff,and spams stuf just to raise your post number.In other words: DON'T TALK ABOUT STUFF YOU HAVENT TRIED OUT!!!!!!!!!! Belive me,it works.

Speaking of the chariot\Ram combo.......How do you beat this?

beating the chariots requires nothing more than effective placement of terrain, so that the chariot can't maneuver.

also DON"T place figs close together to be swept, use mounts that it can't pass through.

Chariot.

MB and terrain. Magus or Amazon Queen...

We dont use terrain.

Stopping a Chariot depends in a lot of factors.

Terrain is a very important one. First strike ability is another one. Chargers and / or MB helps.

BTW, mounts bases are ignored just like every other single non MDF.