...how can you have sealed events when you know what you're getting. You must know, there aren't going to be any more blind boosters, at least not for a while in any case. Stop complaining, it doesn't help you- stop being lazy and just buy online if your venue will no longer be ordering the product.

You will be able to order them online, from what I've heard Diamond and Alliance will be selling to online stores too.

Jagred, you obviously don't know how to read a post do you. My post concerns how this will affect players in my area as well. Many of these guys do not like to purchase online for different reasons( no credit cards, etc). This means if they can't get the products from the venue then they will probably not be playing much other than casually with the sets they already have.

"...how can you have sealed events when you know what you're getting"

What the heck does this mean? If the venue has no boosters, then how do you run sealed events?


"Stop complaining, it doesn't help you- stop being lazy and just buy online if your venue will no longer be ordering the product."

Excuse me for stating my opinion about how this change will affect play in my area. That is what the purpose of this topic is about right? I never stated that I was not going to purchase any product online or stop playing altoghether was I? My venue used to give me good deal on case prices because I bought 2-3. You think I'll get that kind of deal elsewhere? Try READING AND UNDERSTANDING the posts before you decide to start calling people names. If you don't like what people are posting that's relevent to the discussion, then find somewhere else to make your posts.

I think what he is saying about the sealed is that all products that we get this year will be clear and fixed content so there are no blind purchases at all.

Question for you: is the reason that your venue(s) ordered from other distributors because they could get it cheaper somewhere else? If that is the case, then the only thing that changes so the cost and not availability. I know Alliance favors the larger purchasers but then again any business will cater towards clients who spend more. Rule #2: (right after Rule #1: customer is always right) always be mindful of your big spenders unless your big spenders account for less than 25% of your business.

FLAMERS ON......


I like what wizkids is doing, for those who buy cases it will be more expensive if you dot get some kind of discount from your retailer, but in doing this wizkids is forcing the majority of us to buy from stores ad not on the internet,control.

from what i hear they will be trying to put more promo product out there to, and i agree with wizkids, get the people back i the stores to buy and play the product.meanig expanding the player base and store sales. make everyone happy right, ofcourse ebay will still have alot of wizkids product but other internet base stores will not.

if this is wizkids attempt to get people back into the stores and buy product then I support what the are trying to dothose stores who have problems with alliance will have to work through there difference, though i feel that overseas will loose the most in this deal.

I've talked to afew people who say they wont like the AP deal with no blid boosters but if the product is good, they will have no choice but to buy it. I myself hVE BOUGHT LESS THEN TEN(whoops hit cap lock) WS boosters but I know if davion gets one now i will not buy it unless it has some gear that I just have to get, but when aother ROTS one comes out i will buy 3 or 4.

forget all that, all i care about is getting more players out to play, whatever wizkids have to do to aqiure them,Im all for it even if it means giving the stick to some of you out there,as long as the majority player base grows some of you will have to sacrice your game for the better sake of ours

I'm curious about the change and how it will affect my local store. Hopefully its not a huge change.

My main question regarding the change.

Can I still get my case for the same price as I was before?

Myself and my sons play heroclix and mechwarrior and with my both of them chipping in we purchase a caase of every new release.

Thanks my main question about this change.

With the Action Pack format is case even going to be an option? We don't know how Wk will release the APs. A differant one every few weeks, all at once? We don't know. Would you still buy a case and how upset would you be if it contained the same 2 APs?

You do know that you can talk to the store owner and have them special order the stuff for you. Same price, but they will order it cause they know they will sell it.

And cavingjan has it right on the dot of what I said about sealed events.

If people around the area can't order stuff online tell them to special order the action packs through the store, or tell them to find someone like you who does have a cc and pay them to order it for them.

Mechwarrior wont die in your area unless you do nothing to save it.

It will take discussing things with my battlemaster, and moving to other venues if neccesary (since I understand loyalty to certain places).

But again, I haven't gotten the full story yet, and policies change without notice at times. Even so, I can still acquire product, no matter how you slice it.

Well just heard from my Venue this weekend that once the current stock is gone, its gone for good, they simply cant afford to purchase multi-case lots in order to support a half a dozen players

I suspect this will be the "justification" for abandoning mechwarrior altogether, if the venues cant afford to purchase from the sole dealer, who will now set the price per case for the product, then sales will be dismal, and since "noone buys it anymore" they will just drop it completely. We may be able to get some product off of ebay, but other than that, its gonna be all over but the funeral

If I did end up with two of the same APs I would not be happy about it, but I would also contact are other players and sell the second one to one of them at whatever the cost was. Otherwise it would just sit in my closet like my two extra JF battleforce sets. I'm finally selling one of them this week.

my best guess is the APs will go like Poseidon, just have the store order an amount by demand (thats what we did) saves the owner from units that collect dust and players get what they want. \

i think a case would probably be just a pack of lets say 6 of the same AP. though it would be nice if they would release different kinds, but then there has to be an equal number of each (otherwise they ll probably have one in abundance and 1 being hard to get, seen that with action figures mostly,

as mentioned Davion (BF) AP would be released 1st and my next bet is that we ll see Solaris based after that, or perhaps one just before. as has been noticed on many other threads we just dont know. just be patient even how frustrating that can be.

They did say the first would be Davion followed by the two Solaris ones.

I just hope they do not mix two different APs in a case. That would be a disaster. I remember vividly the debacles that were the faction based MK boxes and the shadowrun figs. Too many of those sat on the shelves because one of them was popular while others were not.

Amen. My old venue (whom will still order product from anywhere WK goes because I'll be paying for it entirely) still has those same old packs, along with about four dozen various shadowrun figures.

I don't know how many players worked closely with a venue, or actually for a venue to learn even a bit, but I'm sure that many already know. At times, even if a company forces a venue to select a certain distributor, you can get product split apart. Venues I had people order from would send me split cases, or even 1/4 cases of sets from the games. It made life easier for both of us.

There'll always be some way to get WK product. With MW going to action packs, and now switching over to a single distribution center (which I can understand and yet loathe), this could work if you special order stuff for the players. Just one of a few ideas out and about.

Well, since my venue is closing soon, I think that will be a much bigger detriment to me playing than the new distribution channel changes, but I thought I would throw my 2 cents in anyways.

I see a lot of people bashing the internet stores and, although I am not an owner of one, I do use them a lot for my purchases. I understand they have a distinct advantage with the lack of overhead that a B&M store has, but there's more to the sotry than that. Back when Vanguard came out, I mentioned to my Venue's employees about the price for a case on eBay and they told me flat out that was much cheaper than what the store was paying for a case. Now either this guy was selling for a loss 1 week after the release (doubtful), was getting a much more significant discount from the distributor (possibly), or whichever distributor was selling to my venue was raking them over the coals (most likely). In any case, having more distriutors to purchase from would allow for better pricing to emerge. As WK is going to a single distrobutor, I see reason to be concerned.

On the other side of the coin, I think all stores need to step up and realize that they need an internet presence to compete in today's world. Its just a fact of life. If there's a better price out there, you can bet most consumers would jump on it. Sure, I want to be loyal to my venue, and if the price difference is not that dramatic, I will be happy to contribute to keep the venue going. However, if I can buy a WS booster at my Venue for 15 but get them for 1/2 that somewhere else, my venue is hurting.

I fully understand that, just because my venue opens an internet store, they would still have the overhead to deal with, but by opening up to a vast world of customers who would never walk into their store, they can gain revenues to better cover that overhead.

Its similiar to stores being open on Sundays. Back in the day, almost no stores were. But once some store began to stay open on Sundays, those that were close realized they were losing valuable customers. The internet is the same way. Open up or lose out.