Dalamar

UDE is gonna rule it the "nice" way. So therfore, just change the rule and us "rude" people have nothing to complain about.

I hate they "nice" way. Yet, I really don't banging my head against a wall either.

UDE please just change the rule.

It's cool. It's the same justification I've heard them say, I just regurgitate it in these discussions when some people ask.

I agree that if they do not rewrite the rules, then you probably could not back up to play a resource. I can't decide if I'd rather have that be a possiblity or not.

It's a bit of a tangent, but in Magic you MUST untap.

-Matt

Yeah. Like I said in my post under my third and most important point, if you are gonna enforce something that is different from what the rules say, change the rules. While I would rather that the rules remained the same and UDE enforced them, I would be much happier if they at least changed the rules to reflect what they are actually gonna enforce. That way a player would actually be able to read the rules and know how the game is played. Go figure.

-Eric

TBD, this happened to you at GenCon didn't it?
I watched this exact situation evolve from its start through it's conclusion at GenCon in the Comic Book Tourney.
Charsky's take on it was upheld. He had said that the game was new enough that while rules were to be enforced, This specific situation he wanted ruled in that fashion. Back up and play a rescource.
All the judges I talked to said they would have ruled against the offending player.
Personally, I think rules are to be adhered to. If you make a mistake you can pay for, pay up.
If you make a mistake you cant pay for, Back up.
10k and up tournies shouldn't have this issue to deal with.
in every other way you are expected to know the rules,..why not here?

No this has never happened to me.

-Eric

I think that rules enforcement in general is too lenient at the higher levels, and this is just part of it. My guess is that the people in charge think it'll be bad for the reputation of the game for people to lose due to technical mistakes, and would rather be lenient.

But, as someone who got screwed over at the PC by a judge not giving my opponent the recommended penalty, I might just be a little bitter.

Here is a question to ponder regarding this situation - if I am forced to not play a resource on one turn, how easy would it be for me (in general) to still win the game?

-Matt

While not to say next to impossible, unless your deck is designed to not have many resources, a normal deck will have a very hard time winning after missing a resource.

90% of the time it will be an Auto Lose.

Yet if you can't even remember to do something as important as playing a resource, how much do you deserve to win????

seems like you people are being rather harsh. It's making me wonder if I really want to compete in a big tournament such as the Pro Circuit since many of you seem so uptight about the game.

being anal over these rulings just seems pointless. It's generally known that almost every turn, a player will set a resource. Calling somebody on that just makes everybody tense and wound up like crazy...

I can't really say people can't do that, but i don't think people should. I believe tournaments should be based on how well your deck was made, and how well you play it. Missing a general rule by lapse of memory, or a human error since we're not perfect, should not end the game for someone. It's pathetic, and it makes the one who calls somebody on that look like a real weak player. =/

No Pro's say they are the best and should be able to back it up. The rules are complicated enough without adding yu-gi-oh godlike judging powers to the mix.

Even in casual play if my friends and i screw up we stop letting each other go back and fix things, Why? Knowing we can't replay the turn we don't become reliant on doovers, we learn to think ahead and become better players. You can't become better if someone's holding your hand covering up your mistakes. Believe me I've made some STUPID mistakes, and took responsibility for them. Sometimes i lost sometimes I came back, I never made the same mistake again though.

Enforce the rules encourage better play.

Why even have ANY rules?

Playing a resource if not the MOST important thing you do every turn is one of the most important things you do every turn.

If you can't remember to do it, you can't be a very good player.

Well said. I have no idea why UDE seems to have such a problem being strict with rules like this. I mean, it's printed right there in the rules. When they are lenient with people that break rules like this it punishes those who know the rules and don't make procedural errors all the time like some people do.

-Eric