If someone screws up in a legal-under-the-game-rules way, you say nothing. If someone does something that causes an illegal game state, then tell them, politely, to please stop the game, then go find a judge.

well I think while you watch the match it is ok as long as you are not interfearing with the match and what not.

If its casual play, then it doesn't matter if you correct the mistake or not, so you probably shouldn't, but if its tournament play, then, correct the mistake. Tell the person to read over Tower of Babel or something like that.:)

If there is a rules problem or a game rule being broken you should ask the people playing to stop and call the judge.

For example, you see someone getting wrecked by team attacks while 8 drop ras al ghoul is on the board. If they arent league they cannot declare a team attack.

Never worry about it, they will get the time back from the judge to finish the match.

If its casual play people still dont like someone telling the opponent what to do, and dont like being told themselves a good portion of the time.

The best thing for a bystander to is to be a bystander.

I would honestly say stay out of it. Both players are responsible for knowing what the cards do. If I player is unsure, they should ask to read the card. In that situation, I might have told the player that they should read cards they are unsure about, but leave it up to them after that. Also, I think it depends on the type of tournament it is. If it is a local tournament, I would probably be more likely to make the correction and notify the players during the game...you cant learn without experiencing the correct way to play. At a PC, PCQ or 10K I would not say anything though....if players are competing to reach the pros, it is 100% up to them to know what is going on, and if they are unsure they should call a judge or something.

I disagree.

As outlined by the Tournament policy, it is also the spectator's responsibility that the game is being played correctly.

If you do not inform an official immediately, and something happens so that the game state is irreparable, it will cause more problems for the players and the judge.

Even if in the event that you see something wrong that benefits your friend, if someone else catches it later on... and the game state cannot be reversed to correct it, it may end in a game loss for your friend.

Well, the thing is, in my situation we have a new player up against a "level one judge" who was telling him Tower of Babel meant that his players lost affiliations and thus they could not attack. At all.

The less experienced player goes "Really?" Our judge friend says "Yep, I'm a level 1 judge." I was furious, but since the store the tournament was at had disqualified a bystander for interracting once (this isn't a PCQ, but a rather large 120 dollars for 1st place tournament).

Anyhow, I stayed out, but it burns me up real bad.

If that bystander was interacting by giving advice to someone than thats justified, if he was pointing out someone cheating or playing incorrectly well than thats bull####. You should intervene next time, especially when its someone blatantly taking advantage of another, and if the store or the TO objects throw a copy of the rules at them.

It is a play error is one player is misrepresenting the game state to another (even by describing what a card does improperly). This is a situation where you should definitely call a judge immediately. As a bystander, you aren't to interfere directly with the match, but you certainly can call over a judge and quickly explain the situation and have the judge deal with it.

He deserved it. He reminded someone what cards were in his opponent's hand after he used the Source.

Exactly my point I was trying to make earlier about how easy it is to become a judge. I put no merit in whether or not someone is a judge or not. If they are the ruling voice for the particular tourney that I am in that's different. I am willing to bet though that over half of the judges have not even read the comp rules through atleast 3 times. Which really is how many times minimum a judge should read the comp rules to get a full understanding of the game and the mechanics.

Ignorance should not be encouraged it should be informed, which is why I will always HELP by pointing out rules violations even as a bystander.

Joey

And there is still a difference between having Level X VS System Rules knowledge and actually being a judge.

I just totally had to quote that because it really does deserve to be quoted.