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No...:( LOL

And yeah -- I forgot that Marvel had the X-Men, but are you serious? Superman and batman ALONE could deal with them.

And if you don't believe me, read the Tower of Babel story arc when the JLA was actually GOOD. Batman (essentially) beat the entire JLA by himself.

Give him some time, and Batman would probably create a way to nullify Prof. X and Jean Grey's powers, and it's just easy pickin' from there.

Of course, this is from a person who loves Batman and thinks (given time to plan) Batman could beat anyone.

Hey, this is comics. Given the right circumstances, anyone can beat anyone. ;)

I'm curious why Ultimate cards are needed. It's pretty much the exact same characters and same powers. So really it's just the art you want.
Same with Age of Apocalypse - same powers, different teams.
They should be saving all What If's and Elseworlds for a couple years down the road. I have to wait for Alpha Flight, you can wait for characters you already have.


Personally I'm dropping Ultimate Spiderman because I'm just not impressed. It's good, but not great. And Ultimate Moon Knight looks stupid. Should have the hood on.
Dropped Ultimate X-men for the same reason.
Didn't buy UF4 because Doom's name is not Van Damme.
I'm really into the Trilogy that's going now. Just not sure I like the Vision being there. But then I like Ultron so I'm a lil biased.
Ultimate Cap is one of my favorite characters in comics. Sucks that I'm buying this series in TPB's.

Age of Apocalypse!! How much you wanna bet they make the teams from Age of Apocalypse?

GAMBIT AND THE X-TERNALS!!

*laughs hysterically until spittle drenches the front of his shirt*

Haven't read X-men comics EVER, have you?

I never discuss these in depth, because Biz is right when he says (as I have) that anyone could beat anyone.

But to so cavilierly dismiss the X-men to Batman and Superman is a very uneducated statement.

What kairos10 said.

In fact, I heard a rumor from an inside source:

Ultimate Jubilee, four issues. In the final issue... the entire Universe, including both Marvel and DC, is revealed as nothing but Jubilee's daydream while looking into the rhinestone on her fingernail. She defeats Superman AND Batman with a pretty pink bottle of acetone.

Anyone really can beat anyone. Amen.

i know i know, im one of few that can say that though.:p

Ry

I think Ultimate Spidey would have been much better if they had killed off MJ instead. How much of a twist would that have been...?

Better than the random death of Gwen.

I agree with karios. Ultimate series is at is best when they change things. The new F4 is good, losing the whole space concept and the new Dr Doom are bold moves. Ultimate Kraven the Hunter, Cpt America, Thor... the best characters are the ones that have changed the most while still retaining the core of the original.

I really like the Ultimates (it goes without saying of course that the best thing is the art... so I won't dwell on that). I like reinterpretations in general though, so long as they add something new. Bas Lurhman's Romeo and Juliet, The Forbidden Planet, these are both good and to dismiss them as 'pointless' because they are re-telling an existing story is not really valid imo.

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What was the original topic again? Oh yeah, the JLA. Well they kick ass. Everyone knows that. Need anyone say any more? :)

Give him some time, and Batman would probably create a way to nullify Prof. X and Jean Grey's powers, and it's just easy picken' from there.

Ok... Ashley it's not you personally, but I am about to rip my hair out, and I have full lushious locks, if another Bat aficionado gives the qualifier, Give the Bats some time and he can beat anybody.
That's a little like saying: Give Chuck a impevious door to Cerebra, a a months supply of Yoohoo and Tina's Burritos, and a port a john and he could kill every single life form on the planet. While its true, it is a little tedious. Also, crossover issue, Cap and Bats one on one fought to a standstill. A little respect. Bats and Wolvie, same thing, unless you count the 30 seconds that Wolvie was out of commision, he ALWAYS gets back up, and it takes him a few minutes at worst, not months, see Bane and Bats first meeting. So a little respect there as well. The fact that DC was willing to make a Comic that implyed that Batman could beat the entire JLA is... well, Jason Todd is back so go figure.

I have a new hero.

(This thread really hauls ass, you know it?)

Batman beating the JLA? Possible.... Now Ra's, there's a man who gets things done. Not only did his maniacal plan bring about total anarchy (I suppose pun intended, since alot of civilains - the 1 drops of comic land - died), but his CRONIES (and daughter, who's of a much higher quality than the cronies) brought down the JLA. That's like Bruce giving Lucious Fox and Alfred some yellow paint, some kryptonite and a flamethrower and saying "OK, that's about half the JLA covered, improvise on the rest. I know you can do it."

As for the whole "Batman can beat anyone given time", I'm QUITE sure that Batman (and yes, I am an avid Batsfan) could in no plausible way, using no outside help whatsoever, build anything that could take down Doomsday. The only thing that can take down Doomsday other than a cosmic being is a very frustrated Supes, and apparently a realy well off Darkseid (note that this is gleamed solely by the fact that he's a 20/20 and has a nasty habit of killing everything off if he survives).

Speaking of Babel (get it?), when are we going to get a concealed Talia that can perform the VS. equivalent of espionage? That would be AWESOME.

That is quite possibly the funniest thing I have seen all week. Good work!

(And this is the week where Tony Blair told the papers he had sex 5 times a night and gave his wife handmade aneversiry cards with stick men and crayon flowers. Ahem. Nice one tony, yeah, have a vote.)

Heh...a Vs. thread about -----Vs.------!

There have been a few of these threads over the past year (will someone link them, maybe?)

This is how I view Bats. The first time he fights say Spidey, Spidey will mangle him. The second time...Bats will be prepared. Using the Doomsday example, there isn't exactly the equivalent to a Bat Shark Repellent for Doomsday.

Also...always remember:

In the end...DOOm wins. And if he doesn't, it was a Doom-Bot.

CC

doom is the evil bats, but doom cheats cuz he has like magic and is actually cool.

Every one knows how batman can beat doomday.

just put 14 cards in your hand!