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Most HFC run 2-4 Massacre, if one of them shows up before turn 2 (could be a mulligan condition If I was playing againts Child)... Massacre either Alfred, IW or Mr F and it's game. It's not a auto-win (wither way), but HFC has somoe tools againts it. I could even see HFC running Null in SA to set up a massacre turn 3-4 or 5.
Originally posted by TheLord Most HFC run 2-4 Massacre, if one of them shows up before turn 2 (could be a mulligan condition If I was playing againts Child)... Massacre either Alfred, IW or Mr F and it's game. It's not a auto-win (wither way), but HFC has somoe tools againts it. I could even see HFC running Null in SA to set up a massacre turn 3-4 or 5.
so your gonna have to hope that you hit a massacre on turn 2 hope, you hit a 1 and 2,hope i dont play a 2/2 or higher on turn 2,hope im a bad player and put alfred in front so he can killed,hope i dont run hab. also cant you dr light the character in play? sure you can massacre dr light but against a deck with no real tricks all you need is child pieces + a utility belt just incase and its gg. so dr light doesnt really mean too much.
What would you belt? There is no payment power involved.
Child has to hope to have a perfect setup too, You can't alfred for Child, set up your team up, Alfred for Fizzle, Alfred a Wild ride, Alfred a belt all before turn 2, have IW and MrF in play at 4, Alfred HAB, have somebody to hide IW, MrF, Alfred before turn 3...
If Child was consistant enough to set up child turn 3-6 with reinforcement tools in play every game it would be top 8 at every PC and 10k. Is it?
And BTW you can't Dr.Light a character removed from the game, so you need to find a way to discard a second and light him back... or rather Hope to find a second and hope to bring him back.
Originally posted by TheLord What would you belt? There is no payment power involved.
Child has to hope to have a perfect setup too, You can't alfred for Child, set up your team up, Alfred for Fizzle, Alfred a Wild ride, Alfred a belt all before turn 2, have IW and MrF in play at 4, Alfred HAB, have somebody to hide IW, MrF, Alfred before turn 3...
If Child was consistant enough to set up child turn 3-6 with reinforcement tools in play every game it would be top 8 at every PC and 10k. Is it?
And BTW you can't Dr.Light a character removed from the game, so you need to find a way to discard a second and light him back... or rather Hope to find a second and hope to bring him back.
you dont need mitt on 3 you can soak up damage enough. but its REALLY easy to set up child on 3 or at least shimmer then to get it for 4. and you know why child doesnt t8? look at the decks ppl play. NOBODY plays the damn deck. btw its easy to find pieces when you have mk engine + bat + enemy.
if it was t8 match hfc vs child which would you rather be?
a child named valeria cost 3 if you control mr fantastic and invisible woman characters with the cost 3 or less cannot be stunned this turn. then some doom part that doesnt matter.
so basicially you play a bunch of small guys and use alfred to search for it on opponents turn (or yours) and shimmer their board on your turn. and you use utility belt to prevent green arrow and stuff.and your kill depends on what build of the deck you're playing. and your build also depends on how easy you can get child lock. if you play jli its realllly easy to get lock by turn 3. in ohter builds you should be able to get it with a decent draw turn 3 or at least have shimmer online and have it turn 4.
and basicially only way you can be hurt is burn or breaktrhough and since most decks dont run enough burn that cant be utility belted you can play catchers mitt(can be search by alfred and mr fantastic) and basicially prevent your opponent from doing damage to you the rest of the game then you procede to burn them out or roy + dr light + cosmic + war wagon. its an extremely boring deck to play against since most teams arnt equiped with the cards to have a chance against it and the 1s that do get cards that help against it usually get stopped by utility belt or fizzle. thankfully nobody plays the deck even tho it auto wins vs so many decks in the format right now.
man....sounds to me like people just have way to muhc on their hands. I for one will never ever play that deck. Wanna know why...cause Im a traditional man. Ill play my GA X-Men or my MMA Morlocks and GA HFC(only because of Genosha other wise it would be MMA) but yeah...once I get aobut 20 more cards that are really really really expensive Ill be on my way. Although, most people in my situation would of quit this game by now. Only two people playing it and only one of them(me) wanting to play it competeitvely. I jsut wish I lived in a city that had people who wanted to play and had a team...
*sigh* if only I were that lucky...
**Does ne1 know of a good place to get cards in Muncie Indiana...
well we are all unlucky this game doesnt have much outside of the PC unless you live in 1 of the big vs spots there will most likely not be many ppl who play the game where you are i know here there isnt theres just like 5 ppl who play competitively here and a few who are terrible ;[
i dont blame you for not wanting to play the deck. i feel guilty playing it myself cus i know how pissed off my opponents are when i play child and i have an alfred on the table and they know theres nothing they can do :/. honestly it should probly be banned. because even if you get a bad draw you can just drop mr fan and invis later in the game and play child and effectively steal the init and then get your kill going and a real dumb thing is that there is a 3 drop invis so if your opponent can somehow keep killing your 1 drop you just drop the 3 drop then they cant do anything in response to your child.
Originally posted by tigolbitties4L a child named valeria cost 3 if you control mr fantastic and invisible woman characters with the cost 3 or less cannot be stunned this turn. then some doom part that doesnt matter.
so basicially you play a bunch of small guys and use alfred to search for it on opponents turn (or yours) and shimmer their board on your turn. and you use utility belt to prevent green arrow and stuff.and your kill depends on what build of the deck you're playing. and your build also depends on how easy you can get child lock. if you play jli its realllly easy to get lock by turn 3. in ohter builds you should be able to get it with a decent draw turn 3 or at least have shimmer online and have it turn 4.
and basicially only way you can be hurt is burn or breaktrhough and since most decks dont run enough burn that cant be utility belted you can play catchers mitt(can be search by alfred and mr fantastic) and basicially prevent your opponent from doing damage to you the rest of the game then you procede to burn them out or roy + dr light + cosmic + war wagon. its an extremely boring deck to play against since most teams arnt equiped with the cards to have a chance against it and the 1s that do get cards that help against it usually get stopped by utility belt or fizzle. thankfully nobody plays the deck even tho it auto wins vs so many decks in the format right now.
i agree with the last part of the deck beating many of the decks in todays meta.good deck when ure playing horrid when ure not u get bored as hell.
for some reason i just see this deck as useless as Ranma-Tut was before it got changed. Man, cant people ever play for the fun of the comics anymore instead of money. Granted its a good thing but seriously...they started it for the comics!
Originally posted by KronicAftermath for some reason i just see this deck as useless as Ranma-Tut was before it got changed. Man, cant people ever play for the fun of the comics anymore instead of money. Granted its a good thing but seriously...they started it for the comics!
The unfortunate reality is that in a game of cash prizes there is a large number of people (comics fan or no) who will play what wins, regardless of how faithful it is to the comics. There is no prize for who has the best deck representative of comic book X. If I'm going to pay $10-20 to enter a tournament I'm going to play whatever I feel gives me the best chance of winning and to heck with the comics behind it.
Which is why I thoroughly enjoy our local hobby league. Its not chock full of Titans/AGL/whatever the latest netdeck is. I get to play my X-men against X-Statix or Superman or Spider Friends and have a lot of fun doing it.