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PL, I believe you are correct for the exact reason you state -- Pulse Wave ignores these powers for the attack only, but if knockback causes you to hit a wall or fall off elevated terrain, then that damage is resolved separately. Damage reducing powers reset when knockback causes you to hit a wall or fall off elevated terrain.
In my day, we didn't have Heroclix. If you were being attacked by Superman with a 3d dumpster, you just had to hope you could outrun him.
Just remember that the figure would take the damage form the PW attack and then you would check to see if it still had a damage reducing power when the knockback damage occurs. So it is possibly to be damaged past your reducing powers and then slam into the wall or off of the roof.
Hi,
I just don't have enough time to find the answer that I believe I already know, but you can do PW in any time right (if you don't have two action tokens and it hasn't been outwitted)?
There was an argue that could Avalanche (veteran) use his PW in close combat with Taskmaster.
Well maybe I'm wrong (I am quite often), but that isn't same thing to give ranged combat action that use ranged combat attack.(?) 'Grounded' figure can't use ranged combat attack against other 'grounded' figure, but why you could not give ranged combat action. PW rule says nothing that using PW would be ranged combat attack...
If the PW figure is a flyer then it can PW at any time. If the PW figure is not a flyer then it can only PW if there are no oppsing non-flyer figures adjacent to it.
Since that reads kind of poorly, here are examples:
LE Doctor Doom: can PW anytime (flyer)
Blizzard, not adjacent to any opposing figures: can PW
Blizzard, adjacent to opposing Wasp: can PW (adjacent opposing figure is a flyer)
Blizzard, adjacent to opposing Hulk: cannot PW (adjacent opposing figure is not a flyer)
Blizzard, adjacent to opposing Wasp and Hulk: cannot PW (at least one adjacent opposing figure is not a flyer)
Thanks,
I have alvays played with Le Doom, so didn't remember. Sorry with all the trouble.
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Originally posted by Mr. Pilkington If the PW figure is a flyer then it can PW at any time. If the PW figure is not a flyer then it can only PW if there are no oppsing non-flyer figures adjacent to it.
Since that reads kind of poorly, here are examples:
LE Doctor Doom: can PW anytime (flyer)
Blizzard, not adjacent to any opposing figures: can PW
Blizzard, adjacent to opposing Wasp: can PW (adjacent opposing figure is a flyer)
Blizzard, adjacent to opposing Hulk: cannot PW (adjacent opposing figure is not a flyer)
Blizzard, adjacent to opposing Wasp and Hulk: cannot PW (at least one adjacent opposing figure is not a flyer)
Originally posted by Mr. Pilkington If the PW figure is a flyer then it can PW at any time. If the PW figure is not a flyer then it can only PW if there are no oppsing non-flyer figures adjacent to it.
Since that reads kind of poorly, here are examples:
LE Doctor Doom: can PW anytime (flyer)
Blizzard, not adjacent to any opposing figures: can PW
Blizzard, adjacent to opposing Wasp: can PW (adjacent opposing figure is a flyer)
Blizzard, adjacent to opposing Hulk: cannot PW (adjacent opposing figure is not a flyer)
Blizzard, adjacent to opposing Wasp and Hulk: cannot PW (at least one adjacent opposing figure is not a flyer)
In my day, we didn't have Heroclix. If you were being attacked by Superman with a 3d dumpster, you just had to hope you could outrun him.
Originally posted by Psylockeslover Due to that ruling, I say that Toughness would be in effect for the damage caused by the knockback.
However, I would like to hear other opinions on the matter....
To be honest, this problem is bothering me. I'm leaning towards agreeing with you yet, although they treat the damage from knockback separately from the damage of the pulse wave, it's still not 100% clear to me that knockback is not part of the "attack" that ignores all powers and abilities. And I've been burned a few times trying to carry the logic behind one ruling over to another.
A related issue would be Charge, it would seem Charge would be ignored so the character would be knocked back.
I've been rule lawyering way too much as of late.
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