1. I think they handled it as quickly as possible. It was a good choice in the short run, but bad in the long. I still have faith things will work out for the best in the end, UDE is good like that.

2. I think what someone else suggested, Format banned cards, is the right way to go. Some of those cards (especially the new ones) are only bad in golden while they are no so bad in modern or silver.

3. Hell no. wasn't even gunna go. I can't afford to, i work for a living.

4. Nope, mostly just play with my friends. GLEE Curve FTW!!


5. Nah, you take the good, you take the bad, you take em both and there you have, my opening statement. Sit boo boo sit. good dog. =)

Considering that the card changes zones between recruits, and would likely involve multiple copies being run anyway ... it's difficult to make it work.

And, for the most part, the free recruit characters were only tangentially involved. Being free made Valeria better ... however she would still be 'broken' if she wasn't free. Talia wasn't free. Neither was Detective Chimp.

The Tommy combo was broken because Tommy was free ... but that's also because Tommy's 'cost' is a condition to be met ... similar to 2-drop Mxy or 2-drop Amelia ... instead of a discard that has to be fueled.

Fiddler is the most abusive of the free characters ... he can single handedly [well, with two copies of himself] create a large number of activations. He not only could be recruited multiple times, he made it very easy to do so.

Making sure that it isn't easy to recruit the same 'free' character over and over again [i.e. making sure Attend or Die didn't work with free characters being KO'd over and over again, eliminating Go Down Fighting for Tommy, banning Fiddler] is one part of the bannings/erratum/rules changes in recent memory. However with Valeria/Talia ... those were similar to the banning of ARB. Making it possible to cycle into the 'perfect hand' is bad for the game, period.

[quote]How do you feel about the way UDE have handled this situation?

What ways would you like to see them improve?

Where you planning on running one of these dirty decks at PC:LA?

Do you have an unknown abomination that you intend to unleash on the world?

Are you unhappy with the bans? Yes? Well I got two words for ya’ . . . . . [quote]

Nope: I can make the circuit on the east coast... wish I could go though. Notwithstanding, I can't see myself being satisfied with a victory over an opponent knowing that I cheated...

My decks, as non-glorious as they are are as original as I can make em. I would consider myself ridiculusly weak as far as being a player is conscerned if I ever found the time to continue testing a broken combo let alone bring it to a sanctioned tournament.

I am unhappy with the bans tremendously because as far as I know nothing serious happens to the so called professional player who initiates such foolishness in sanctioned games. In all civilized communities, there are extensive fines for throwing ones trash out on the street. Disturb the peace of your community, spit on the sidewalk and if caught, you will pay dearly for your minor discretion. Nevertheless, it is not minor to the person trying keep his/her city neat and orderly. I would think that this same reasoning should apply to players and their teams who utilize broken out-of-combat combos in circuit play. Less banning more erratta... but, UDE, you have to start PUNISHING players who don't take fair play seriously. Are'nt baseball pitchers fined and/or ejected from a game(s) if it's been found that they've applied an illegal substance to the ball that they had been throwing at an opponent throughout a game. Are'nt there age rules that apply to little league sports. That's ridiculous, lil babies play with more honour than we do! :disappoin

Can someone please decipher/interpret this post into English, Bad English, or Gamer? Are you saying that broken combos somehow correlate to unfair play (which somehow is equated to spitting on the sidewalk, [sarcasm] a freedom which I take seriously in this country [/sarcasm]). Seriously though, you're saying that playing a combination of tournament legal cards is somehow equivalent to out and out cheating?

Also, can babies truly play with honor? Do you have to be able to comprehend the notion of honor, or comprehend anything at all, before you can have it?

I think this thoroughly proves that babies have honor, and, in general, more honor than we can ever hope to achieve.

Except...who's to say what's "fair" and "not fair"? Right now, UDE does that for us. Are you saying that you know how to judge if a deck is fair or not? How do you know, objectively speaking, if a deck is "fair"? I know people who contend to this day that Rama-Light was "fair", and they do have some very good backup arguments considering how atrociously off-the-wall you might consider their argument to be. Then again, there are people who contend that Curved Sentinels was "unfair", that Squadron was "unfair", and, hell, that my JSA/X-Men Upcurve Swarm deck is "unfair". None of these decks are unfair, but I'm willing to bet that you'd say Rama-Light is unfair. Why? Because you can't beat it. Sorry if I insulted you, but that's the facts. It's not fair TO YOU because YOU can't beat it. Sorry, but if you can't beat it, the problem is you, not the deck.

The reason UDE has the authority to decide what's fair or not is because they make the game. They have financial interests in keeping the game fair; you do not. If their game isn't fair, they lose money, so they have to keep the game fair. On the other hand, they have to keep players interested. If every top-tier deck gets banned and the only teams left legal are Revenge Squad, Underworld, and SinSyn, no one will want to play Vs. Also, UDE has shown that if we complain, they will listen, so it's not like we have zero say.

I don't like a lot of the cards they chose to ban either, but they do have very good reasons for doing it the way they did. They took a quick jab at the meta, and, hopefully after PCLA is over, they'll reconsider their choices and look at it more closely when they have time.