Not complaining, but why would the Ultimates TA be X-Ray vision?

Doesn't make sense.

I guess this means Calysto is in the next set...

Think of Ultimate Hulk. If they give him charge, he'll be nasty. Just think, Hulk eating the heads of KC Superman/Shazam/Magog.

The Ultimates only ignore the effects of Terrain - they'll still have to roll to base KC characters. The Serpents on the other hand, don't.

some thoughts.....

morlocks ability? an sarah? marrow ? she was a morlock ¡¡¡¡¡

xmen ultimates, sweet get the 2000AD ability.....

Ultimates is the definitive ability to chack down alll those cheese teams of batman & ultron team... (batman is no cheese but when ultron gets into the batcave, something smeel like cheese....) , not more a +1 defense for be in hindering terrain , that sucks :P

Serpent abilities is one more for a cheap new increase for doombot teams :P


morlocks ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ SWEEEEEEET, another team to collect with the xmen ultimates

please morlocks generics ¡¡¡?

Actually, I just drew it out...you can have up to +4 (capped at +3 I guess)...so this could be huge.

I cant believe Alpha Flight is over looked again. I mean do we really need MORE X-Men related figures? Morlocks? WHo really cares about them. I was an avid reader of X-Men growing up but i cant name that many. When will Alpha Fligth get some respect.

I just reread the Supes TA and I don't see a difference.

On a down side: Think of how much the Superman/Ultimates TA costs, and remember that Ultimate Captain America is something like 105 points or so.....

Not neccessarily. Look at the Master's of Evil and thier team ability.

Actually this will likely mean that Sidewinder (Serpent Society) and Calysto will not be made into a Heroclix figure until 2006.

Reread it again they ignore Team Abilites as well


Ultimates: Members of this team ignore the effects of hindering terrain on movement, combat, and powers and team abilities

Still no X-Ray vision

Wow... Just imagine Ultimate Iron Man laying some major smack down on those bat-cowards. He and Thor will be one to dish it out. an Ult Hawkeye would also be cool as a cheap anti-stealth sniper. I think this ability is justified by the team having such backup support (choppers, scientists, gadgets) that they are always prepared and never caught napping.

Also, you could technically get a +8 bonus to your close combat attacks with Morlocks (8 adjacent squares) but it's limited to 3.

Again, here's hoping to a Unique Nick Fury with stealth, phasing, outwit, and the ULTIMATES ability!

The Ultimates TA makes perfect sense. They have the technology to excuse it. IM has super computers on board, Thor is a god, and the rest have good equipment too, hecvk Fury becomes invisible!

BUT, Thugit is right, that is an expensive TA, and Cap at a 103 points probably means he's about as good as the current vet plus the expensive TA.

wow, looks like i have to collect 2 MORE teams!! i love the ulitimates and ultimate x-men. WOOT!!!