Hellfire gets some major upgrades with the new PAC. I might actually consider using him!


ca035 R Hellfire
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 3
Points: 45
Keywords: Hydra, Mystical, Secret Warriors, Spy

7 10 16 2

7 9 15 1

6 9 16 1

6 9 15 2

6 8 15 1

KO KO KO KO

KO KO KO KO

KO KO KO KO

KO KO KO KO

KO KO KO KO

KO KO KO KO

KO KO KO KO

(Damage) Mystical Hellfire Chain: Hellfire can use Energy Explosion and Exploit Weakness. When he uses Energy Explosion, he deals penetrating damage.

It's not a mistake; those keywords are being phased out, and they're still generic.

Probably not at any Venue I go to.

I took a bit of a look at the 2013 PAC.

Then I looked at the Phantom Stranger.

jl061 U Phantom Stranger
Team: Quintessence
Range: 8
Points: 171
Keywords: Justice League of America, Mystical, Quintessence

12 10 18 1

8 10 18 1

8 11 18 1

7 10 17 1

11 10 17 1

10 10 16 1

9 9 16 1

KO KO KO KO

KO KO KO KO

KO KO KO KO

KO KO KO KO

KO KO KO KO

Let's see - Incap can now, theoretically, result in a guaranteed click of damage against two separate targets; Energy Explosion, while he still only admittedly packs a 1 Damage, means that he's going to be able to hurt some swarms pretty well (though it's probably arguable if he does better at that before or after the change). Some Perplex (or Armor Piercing) to ensure he cracks reducers and launches the splash might be useful, though - like I said, he's still only packing a 1 down the whole dial in his Damage slot.

On the downside though, his Outwit range got slightly shortened.

Bruce banner to Blue Beetle: The BB gun is cool, but u should try this shoulder-mounted Gamma RPG instead!

For all my Mystics love I have yet to field this... point sink.
What else can you call poor PS here?

every time I look at him I really think it was a typo, he was supposed to be 117 points and they just didn't errata him because they were embarassed

This is hilarious.

I just used Hellfire last week! Should have waited on that team!

i wish the made up rules party of HC would fate away.

Who got better because of the 2013 PAC?

Me.

I've been using those figures that have the improved powers when the powers sucked. Now WK just amped up pieces I've been already playing?!?!

Game just got turned to "11".

A wonderful support piece for high point games?

. . . Maybe?

. . . Please? . . . Yeah probably not . . .

Yeah, it's . . . kind of sad. He's the only Clix version of my favorite superhero, and it's . . . Not a very good piece. To say the least.

Still! I have my hopes that he'll be better with the PAC change. After all, why would I give up hope on the entity that shows up to give mankind hope when all looks at its darkest?

Yeah, Nu52's Phantom "Totally Not Judas" Stranger can suck my opera cloak, just in case I haven't made that point evident enough in the past.

( the old ) WizKids should be more embarassed that they didn't do something to fix him.

that'd be awfully ironic
never too late to errata him to 117pts

So...his defense power just became more significant.

ha099 U Thorbuster
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 8
Points: 140
Keywords: Armor, Avengers

10 11 18 4

10 10 17 4

9 10 17 3

9 10 17 3

9 9 17 3

9 9 17 4

8 9 17 4

8 8 16 3

8 8 16 3

KO KO KO KO

KO KO KO KO

KO KO KO KO

(Defense) Asgardian Crystal: Thorbuster can use Toughness. Other characters using Quake, Energy Explosion, or Running Shot deal no damage to Thorbuster.

(Damage) To Fight A God: Thorbuster can use Exploit Weakness. When Thobuster attacks a character that has the Asgardian and/or Deity keywords, modify his damage value by +2.