"They call you the Forgotten One? I see why," Alloy said, hitting the Eternal hard.

"You think one hit is enough to get rid of me?" Gilgamesh asked.

"It isn't? How about two?" Stargirl said, blasting him with the full force of her staff.

"Wow, that was impressive, and so are you," Anole flirted with Stargirl.

"Really, Lizard Boy? You're going there?" Stargirl asked.

I think we should consider modifying any title character, especially for these big games. I've been looking at Magneto in the other game and would really consider using him without all that negative stuff weighing him down. So let's consider those on a case by case basis. Makes them playable.

Clock King drops a time bomb in P11. Outwits Alloy's sc.

Gravy on MF, Alloy, Anole. Gets 6. A token/click to both Anole and MF. A token to Alloy. His normal damage goes to MF for 2, he's on his last click.

Jakar tks Thor to the porter.

Thor hss to H7 attacking Orion. Needs 5, rolls 7. KOs him. Thor ends in I10.

Sersi tks Thor to the porter and he bops back to F21.

Hogun on Alloy. Needs 7, rolls 5. 8 for Wanda. Imperv is 1. He takes 1.

So how do I lessen the gap without bringing in someone overly powerful? The Presence, that's how. He moves to F23. Silly but for some reason I like the guy.

One of my big advantages in this game is Jakar. I hereby offer him to you. He moves to KL13,14.

As of the moment our gap is now just over 300. Of course your replacement for Orion will make a difference.

Graviton sides to R14.

AIG009R Jakar @@ KL13,14
AOU Graviton @ R14
Clock King I17
TMT031E Hogun (Knobbed Mace) @@ N12
UXM Scarlet Witch K17
TMT Sersi @ J15 (Stealthed)
Presence @ F23
Thor Odinson (Lazarus Pit) (Plot Points-7) @@ F21
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"Excellent. My power will shine next to those of Graviton and Thor," the Presence says.

"Ummmm....and just who are you, little man?" Jakar asks.

"My armor can hold the power of nuclear destruction," he replies, "As long as I can contain it."

"And who have you ever defeated? The Avengers? The Fantastic Four?".

"Ummm...well, I've given a few Defenders a run for their money. I know Hellcat was very frustrated with me."

"As I suspected," Jakar says dismissively.

Almost immediately I realized there were two problems with my turn.

First, Orion gets a KC roll before Thor can call him done. 4. And now he's done.

Second, I gave Jakar two actions this turn. The second action was an attempt to offer him up as a sacrifice (to maybe help balance this game).

I'm going to suggest we just ignore that he took two actions. Otherwise I can't offer him up for you. He's no Graviton but the triple tk thing is really an important piece of my current team. I'll let you decide, he may not even be something you'd be able to go for this turn. If not, he stays where he was.

I liked Presence's line about Hellcat.

Regarding the Title Characters. I'd be wary of modifying them to take away the negative effects, as they are meant to be there for a balancing effect. You take away the negatives and you get a really good piece at a low cost. Perhaps like Thor if you also remove some of the positives, but then you're taking away much of what makes them special.

I agree Jakar's been irritating. But Graviton and Clock King with all the Incapping has also been a big factor in limiting what I can do. But yes. Jakar is there, so I should deal with him.

New Shazam time. Teleports to K11

HSS to J14 on Jakar. SC Is 5. So much for your giving up Jakar to me. Well that's okay. I placed him so he would have a backup target in Sersi. SC is 1 for her. AV11 on DV17. Rolls 3. Uses his PC, makes it 7. 2 to her after Invulnerable. Breakaway? 1. Crud.

Scarlet Spider to L3

Editing to add new stuff. Lazarus Pit on Shazam. Wrath on Stargirl - she needs some mobility. (Edit, already used Lazarus Pit, changing it to Fortitude)

HQ Stargirl (Wrath) P11 (CR)(2)
WOL Sister Sercy M4 (2)
SMWW Major Force J7 (7)
WF58e Alloy O11 (SC)(4)
BTAS Zatanna N5
WKM17-01 Scarlet Spider @ L3
XXS Anole O12 (1)
RE Shazam (Fortitude) @ J14 (Protected: Opposing PC)
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"I'd rather not hit a lady, but I guess if I have to..." Shazam said, flying out and hitting Sersi.

Wait I used Lazarus Pit already. And most of the other good defensive feats, Repulsor Shield Shellhead. I still have Fortitude, so let me take that, and I will give Shazam Protected from Opposing PC with his Trait instead.

Figures Used
Marvel: Abomination, Absorbing Man, Agent Sitwell, Agent Venom, Ajax, Aldrich Killian, Alkhema, Alyosha Kraven, Amadeus Cho, Anaconda, Angel Dust, Angela, Animus/Vamp, Ant-Man, Arkon, Attuma, Avalanche, Beetle, Ben Urich, Betty Brant, Beyonder, Black Cat, Blackwing, Blob, Boom-Boom, Boomerang, Bug, Bulldozer, Caliban, Calypso, Cannonball, Captain Atlas, Captain Mar-Vell, Chamber, Chameleon, Charlie-27, Ch’od, Cloak, Cobalt Man, Colleen Wing, Constrictor, Corvus Glaive, Cottonmouth, Crime Master, Crimson Dynamo, Cypher, Dagger, Dark Beast, Darkhawk, Dead Girl, Deadpool, Death Adder, Deathbird, Demogoblin, Dire Wraith, Dire Wraith Queen, Dirk Anger, Doc Samson, Dr. Minerva, Dr. Octopus, Dr. Strange, Dogpool, Doop, Drax, Dreadpool, Ebony Maw, Ego-Prime, Electro, Electro (Francine), Erik Killmonger, Falcon, Fenris, Firefall, Firelord, Fixer, Flora Colossus, Foolkiller, Frog-Man, Frost Giant, Gamora, Genesis, Ghost Rider, Gideon, Grandmaster, Green Goblin, Grim Reaper, Gwenpool, Hammer, Heimdall, Her, Hercules, Hit-Monkey, Hive, Hobgoblin, Howard Stark, Howard the Duck, Hulk Robot, Human Torch, Husk, Hussar, Hydra Agents. Hydro-Man, Icarus, Ikaris, Ikon, Invisible Woman, Iron Patriot, Jack of Hearts, Jackhammer, Jakar, Jason of Sparta, Javelin, Jennifer Kale, Jester, Jigsaw, Jinku, Ka-Zar, Karen Page, Karma, Karnilla, Killraven, Kingpin, Korath the Pursuer, Korvac, Korvus, Kraven, Kree, Kree Sentry, Lady Bullseye, Lava Man, Layla Miller, Leader, Legion, Lila Cheney, Lilandra, Lizard, Lockheed, Luke Cage, Lyja Lazerfist, M-11, Machete, Machine Man, Madame Hydra, Magik, Magma, Magma Men, Magneto, Major Glenn Talbot, Malice, Man-Beast, Man-Wolf, Manta, Martinex, Martyr, Maxam, Meggan, Mentallo, Mephisto, Mercury, Mercy, Mikhail Rasputin, Mirage, Miss America, Miss America II, Mr. Fantastic, Misty Knight, Mockingbird, Moltar, Monkey King, Moon Knight, Moondragon, Morbius, Morgan le Fay, Ms. Marvel, Mysterio, Namora, Nebula, Nikki, Nova (Sam), Nuke, NYPD Officers, Odin, Oni-Hulk, Oni-Leader, Orphan, Overdrive, Owl, Ox, Oya, Phat, Photon, Piledriver, Plunderer, Pluto, Poison, Proteus, Punisher Squad, Purple Man, Pyro, Rage, Raptors, Ravenous, Red She-Hulk, Red Wolf, Rescue, Rhino, Ringmaster, Riptide, Rocket Raccoon, Rockslide, Ronan the Accuser, Ronin, Rusty, Sabretooth, Sarah Garza, SauronSelene, Sentry #459, Scarlet Centurion, Scarlet Spider, Seth, Shanna, Shi’ar, Shiklah, Shocker, Shriek, Shroud, Silhouette, Silvermane, Skaar, Smasher (WXM), Songbird, Speed Demon, Spider-Gwen, Spider-Man (MIles), Spider-Man (Peter), Starbolt, Starbrand, Starfox, Starhawk, Starshine, Stegron, Stingray, Stilt-Man, Sugar Man, Sunspot, Super-Ape: Peoter, Supremor, Surge, Surtur, Swarm, Tarantula, Tarot, Taskmaster, Terminator, Thena, Thing, Tiger Shark, Titanium Man, Tombstone, T-Ray, Tyr, U-Go Girl, Ultragirl, Ultron, Unicorn, Venom, Venus Dee Milo, Vermin, Viper, Viv Vision, Vulture, Vulture II, Warlock, Warpath, Warstar, Wasp, Wasp (Nadia), Werewolf By Night, White TIger, Whizzer, Wolfsbane, Wonder Man, Wrecker, X-Man, Yondu, Zaran, Zarrko the Tomorrow Man

DC: Abra Kadabra, Adam Strange, Alfred Pennyworth, Alloy, Anarky, Animal Man, Anti-Monitor, Architect, ARGUS Agents, Apache Chief, Aqualad, Arkham Asylum Guards, Arkillo, Arrowette, Arsenal, Atom, Atom (JSA), Atomic Skull, Atrocitus, Baby Doll, Bat-Knight, Batman, Batwing, Batwoman, Bedovian, Bizarro Hawkgirl, Black Alice, Black Bat, Black Canary, Black Lightning, Black Orchid, Blackgate Guard, Bleez, Blue Beetle, Bookworm, Booster Gold, Brainiac 5, Brother Blood, Brother Blood Acolyte, Bud, Bumblebee, Bunker, Captain Boomerang I, Captain Boomerang II, Captain Cold, Catman, Centerhall, Chameleon Girl, Cheetah, Chief, Chillblaine, Chronos, Clock King, Colossal Boy, Comedian, Count Vertigo, Cyborg, Damian Wayne, Deadman, Deadshot, Dee Dee, Diggle, Dr. Alchemy, Dr. Cyber, Dr. Fate, Dr. Hurt, Dr. Light, Dr. Psycho, Dominators, Donna Troy, Dove, Druids, Earth Man, Eclipso, Elasti-Girl, Electrocutioner, Element Man, Elijah Snow, Enchantress, Etrigan, Fatality, Faust, Fiddler, Firefly, Flash, Freddy Freeman, Freefall, Fury, General Lane, Geo-Force, Girder, Gizmo, Golden Glider, Gordanians, Gorilla Grodd, Grace, Gunfighter, Hal Jordan, HARDAC Batman, Harvest, Harley Quinn, Harvey Bullock, Hawk, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Heat Wave, Holiday Killer, Huntress, Impulse, Indigo, Inque, Isis, J-Man, John Stewart, Joker, Joker’s Daughter, Katma Tui, Kid Flash (Wally II), Killer Moth, Kilowog, King Shark, Kobra, Kobra Fanatics, Krona, Kyle Rayner, Kyodai Ken, Lady Blaze, Lady Shiva, Leash, Lightning, Lightning Lord, Lobo, Looker, Lord Satanus, Lou, Mad Hatter, Major Force, Mary Marvel, Maxie Zeus, Maxwell Lord, Mento, Metallo, Mirror Master, Mr. Freeze, Mr. Majestic, Mr. Mxyzptlk, Mr. Oz, Mr. Unknown, Mongul, Mordru, Murmur, Negative Man, Nick Necro, Nightrunner, Nightshade, Nightwing, NOWHERE Soldiers, Ocean Master, Omen, Orion, Parasite, Penguin, Pete Ross, Pied Piper, Power Girl, Power Ring, Prez Rickard, Prometheus, Psimon, Queen Aga’po, Queen Bee, Question, Ragman, Ra’s al-Ghul, Raven, Ray, Red Lantern Recruit, Red Robin, Red Star, Red Tornado (Earth-2), Renee Montoya, Reverse-Flash, Riddler, Ridge, Rival, Robot Minotaur, Robotman, Roland Daggett, Romat Ru, Rose Wilson, Sayd, Scarecrow, Sea King, Shadow Demons, Shadow Thief, Shame, Shazam, She-Hulk, Simon Baz, Sinestro, Sister Sercy, Skitter, Skyscraper Wonder Woman, Socialist Red Guardsman, Solomon Grundy, Solstice, Star Sapphire, Starfire, Stargirl, Starling, Static, Steppenwolf, Steve Trevor, Superboy (Connor), Superboy (Jonathan), Supergirl. Superman, Superman Robot, Talia, Talon, Tarpit, Tattooed Man, Technocrat, Tempest, Templars, Terra, Thinker, Thunder (Outsiders), Thunder (Ravagers), Top, Tornado Twins, Toyman, Trench, Trickster I, Trickster II, Two-Face, Tyroc, Ventriloquist, Vicki Vale, Warblade, Weather Wizard, White Rabbit, Wonder Girl, Wonder Woman, Zamaron, Zatanna, Zealot, Zeta, Zoom

Other: Alopex, Altem Sentinel, Bilbo Baggins, Charlie X, Dwalin the Dwarf, Frankenstein’s Monster, Happy Lover, Master Kyonshee, Samwise Gamgee, Zombies

Game 5
Feats: Contingency Plan, Fortitude, Lazarus Pit, Red Sun Sons, Repulsor Shield, Shellhead
Relics: Helmet of Fate, Hulkbuster Torso, Kuurth’s Hammer, Lust, Pride, Wrath
ID Cards: Ant-Man, Black Widow, Hawkman, Iron Man, Wolverine

Took my turn and just realized that you crossed 5k. You're open to new stuff. You can add it now or wait until next turn, I'll let you make the call.

Ooops....my bad. I must've posted too soon.

You misunderstand my point about title characters. My recommendation is the same as yours, remove both of the extreme ends of the title characters abilities. Just like I suggested with Thor for this game. Another thought is limiting the duration of the extremes (in this big game it's hard to keep track).

Jakar to port? 4. Ports to IJ8,9.

CK outwits Alloy's sc and lets his bomb off. Anole, Alloy, Stargirl get a token.

Graviton sides to P18 attacking Alloy, Shazam, Stargirl. Rolls 8. 7 for Shazam. Since Shazam is involved I can't pc. Each get a token and click (well, no click to Shazam). Can I give Alloy the damage? Imperv is 3. 2 to him.

Wanda brings in the Hercules ID card. He sides to K15 on Shazam. Needs 7, rolls 9. 2 to Shazam.



AIG009R Jakar IJ8,9
AOU Graviton @@ P18
Clock King K15
TMT031E Hogun (Knobbed Mace) N12
UXM Scarlet Witch @ K17
TMT Sersi (2) J15 (Stealthed)
Presence (Radioactive -1) F23
Thor Odinson (Lazarus Pit) (Plot Points-7) F21
TMT103E Hercules ID card @ K15


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"Oh look, a bulky speedster. Speedster, meet gravity," Graviton says slowing down Shazam in mid-flight.

Regarding Graviton's attack, his 7 would hit Alloy okay, but Shazam has a hindering bonus, so he would have needed 8 to hit him. Ditto Stargirl and her ESD.

Zatanna to P9, Perpelxes Shazam's Damage to 5. Then Sidesteps to P7

Shazam to Break? Gets 6. HSS to F20 on Thor, AV11 on DV19. Gets 3. PC that to 12. Oh nice. Still reduced to 3 for Invincible, but that's enough to get him off HSS which is a huge help. Breakaway? 2. Ends F15

Major Force to Regen. Gets 2. Bleah.

Sercy uses the ID Card for Bucky, CACWS5e Winter Soldier. RCE for +1/+1 on Jakar. SC is 6. AV12 on DV17. Gets 9. 2 to him after Toughness.

HQ Stargirl (Wrath) P11 (CR)(2)
WOL Sister Sercy @ M4 (2)
SMWW Major Force @ J7 (6)
WF58e Alloy O11 (SC)(6)
BTAS Zatanna @ P7
WKM17-01 Scarlet Spider L3
XXS Anole O12 (1)
RE Shazam (Fortitude) @@ F15 (Protected: Opposing PC)(2)
CACWS5e Winter Soldier (ID Card) @ M5
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"You and me, we're like lightning brothers," Shazam told Thor. "But brothers fight sometimes." He hit Thor as hard as Thor had ever been hit.

If Jakar's sc roll is 6 then who is taking the damage? Must be Hogun.

Well, that wasn't the turn I'd expected.

Jakar tks Sersi to F16, CK to K10.

Thor to K22.

CK outwits Alloy's sc and puts a bomb in N9, ports to I17.

Hogun on Alloy. Needs 8, rolls 6. 6 for Wanda.

Sersi on Shazam. She'll turn off her Power Cosmic to gain perplex. Makes her damage 5. Needs 6, twice, rolls 7. Then 9 for him. He's off pc and takes 2. 1 to Sersi.

Presence to A24.


AIG009R Jakar @ IJ8,9
AOU Graviton P18
Clock King I17
TMT031E Hogun (Knobbed Mace) @ (2) N12
UXM Scarlet Witch K17
TMT Sersi (3) @ F16
Presence (Radioactive -1) @ A24
Thor Odinson (Lazarus Pit) (Plot Points-7) (3) @ K22



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"Ignoring me for the more obvious threat of Thor makes sense....on paper at least," says Sersi.

"I'll hit a lady if I have to," Shazam says launching a fist. His hand becomes plastic and his hit is painful, to him.

"Owwww owwww owwwww owwww owwww," he says jumping around and suddenly sees his clothes are gone.

"Hey, I'm naked!".

Sersi grins and looks him up and down. "Mussletof," she says.

"Get me my clothes back now!".

"As you wish," she says giving him an oversized pink bunny costume.

"Man," he whispers shaking his head, "I'm glad no one can see this. I'd never live it down."