what is this human torch deck that i keep hearing about???

I was about to ask the same thing...

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Nova Burn by Joe Corbett (the same man who brought you Kole, Kole, Kole in your stocking.) there's a pretty leengthy forum about it around here somewhere.

http://www.vsrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53856

Here's the link.

I've played a couple games with it. I'm honestly not sold on it, as it doesn't seem to be able to break thru enough damage to stall decks like Spidey, even if they do stun your board.

On the other hand, maybe a better build would be able to win.

that has to be the crappiest version of the deck I have EVER seen.
Every time I play against the 'good' version, Torch is able to stun every single one of my characters starting turn 4 going through turn 8. before the first attack I make can even conclude.
THAT is the deck I am talking about.

the curve goes black cat, punisher 3 mtu, and the deck also plays torch 2, negative woman and random on the later turns. the curve caps off with an aquaman. it is very consistant. even on a bad draw against it where I was running evasion one time, crisis doom another and jean grey a third time he still succeeded in doing what the deck is supposed to do.

hahahahhaha.. wow your mean.. hey cant beat a guy for trying to make a good deck..lol

lol yeah it wasn't meant to be that rash. its just the tougher version is a real beast.

I don't suppose you would know where we could find that decklist?

it's in my teammate's gauntlet. i could get a decklist but what I've told you should be sufficient and I don't want to give netdeckers any fodder.

btw, the list I am currently thinking of running at the elite series, assuming I am going, has 1 spider-friends character. haven't had a chance to test it out yet but If I find anything I'll be happy to PM you regulars with my list.

Of course I am still up for discussing SF strategy in public, as always, and as this is a public vs thread.
I think spidey can do alot to stifle the quicksilver decks (assuming the new 3-drop is run), the 4 can handle punisher 4 via gift wrap, but I can't think of anything that can stop heat wave ...

I don't suppose it would be possible to Gift Wrap Negative Woman when the recruit is on the chain?

nah, the character has to be in play for her to be a legal target for gift wrapped. that means she will have a chance to respond by using her effect.

effects like power compressor would work though ...

Except there are no effects like Power Compressor in Silver Age, but for Batman 6 from DWF, and the rub is trying to GET to 6 in the first place. The only other thought I had is Sage <>Xaviers Secret Weapon with a Cloak, but is that too much work?

I have an inkling that someone at my hobby league is planning on running a similar deck, and having chosen Spider Man as my legend, I've been burning the midnight oil thinking of what I need to add as tech against combo decks.

Currently I've added Doom to deal with the lack of an effective five drop (Doom DG and Boris on 5), and it seems to be working well. I did enjoy the deck list that had Cybelle, that was wildly innovative, I'm just trying to netdeck as usual.

thanks; that cybelle/valkyrie combo did a number on many an outsiders/kree decks I faced in a couple city champs.

playing sage then making her go hidden, torch can't do anything to that. that makes you safe until batman hits the board. its a tough road, but one definately viable.

Heh. I actually meant to say "trying NOT to net deck as usual." The part about making her hidden is tough. I think that as long as you get the cloak on her on turn 3 and then have Sensational on four you should be okay, right? Then on five with Diabolic Genius you might have a chance to get to turn 6 and lock the game down. Maybe. Thoughts??