I'm so confused. You HAVE to be confusing me with someone else, or you're just not reading my posts correctly, because I've done nothing of the sort. And I've already stated before in other threads that I see way more hostility in HeroClix coming from people that don't build competitively than those that do. This isn't a new revelation for me.
Dude, just chill out. You have been one of the most unreasonable and insulting people in the thread, and are also reading a whole lot into posts that's not actually there. I really recommend just stepping back for a day or so, clearing your head, and then coming back. I don't see this to be rude, but as sincere advice, since I've found it useful to do the same thing when I get too involved in a thread and start taking things more personally than I should.
Technically, we've never had line of sight, only line of fire.

Yep.
Sweeping generalizations are bad, generally speaking.

Trying to speak about an entire "group" of people as if they are all identical and will have the exact came mentality/behavior is probably a doomed endeavor. I think it would be much better and result in less ire towards your post if you avoided such broad generalizations. The use of "your kind" in particular makes it come across as a lot more harsh.
Horse-pucky. See the previous comment regarding honey and vinegar.
1) I don't see anything wrong with that team.
2) I do think that your reaction to it, whether you like the team or not, is unnecessary. Lord knows I can be a smartass at times, but I can't see how it would possibly be better to start off with a snarky remark like that instead of just saying, "dude, I think you overshot with the competitiveness. Maybe try to tone it down next time?"

This is the simple truth.
If you ask me in a nice manner "hey bro were a casual venue can you reel in the meta" sure no worries ill come here on occasion when im feeling theemy or for big meta (ig avx) tournaments.
But if your rude and to quote haven escalate it I'm damn sure gonna ESCALATE IT.
Because civility is already out of the question at that point.

The venue in question was plagued by Meta players, eventually only one in particular, that ran off the guy who played Iron/Machine and Forge, and EVERYONE else. I'm not kidding. It took getting to the point where it was me, the judge, and the Meta guy, and the Meta guy said, "I wonder why no one but us comes anymore." The judge laughed derisively and said, "It's you!" I was appalled. Granted, everyone who left had been saying as much in many less direct manners. One guy refused to play against Meta guy if he got matched up with him and would just leave if that happened. I volunteered to take those games for him so that wouldn't happen. I thought the judge had been too harsh, but it was the moment when Meta guy realized that he had, indeed, run off 11 people in a couple of years.

So, yeah, when one of the guys who got ran off started going down the road of, "Well, I really wanted the prize tonight, so that justifies me changing the playstyle of the venue for my greed." I have absolutely no problem letting him know that I find it unacceptable when I've known him for years, he credits me with changing Meta Guy's playstyle and I feel I can deliver a scolding in a manner that he can accept. You don't know the people involved, you don't know the situation. But if you want to believe you are all morally superior and call me a "dink" or call my behavior "passive aggressive BS" or "mocking", then you go right ahead.

If I'd behaved in such a way, I would never have changed Meta Guy's attitude or playstyle and Clix wouldn't even be played at that venue anymore. Everybody, at the time, told me that I wasn't being harsh enough with Meta Guy and all of them did things that I found unacceptable. There are things I won't do in pursuit of a prize, and there are things I just won't do to other people because of basic decency. But if you can't read what I'm writing and give me the benefit of doubt to believe that I'd take people's feelings, and the good of the venue, into account before acting, then there's little I can do to make you see this for what it is.

Indeed. Wait around. He'll turn on me before the thread is over.

Nope, dead serious. In all aspects but the one under discussion below, I think Haven argues more for something that I agree with, makes his points better, and takes more than himself into account. For that, I made the remark about him owning Owlman166. I mean, he doesn't literally own him, so I suppose there was some sarcasm there, but no more than was necessary so as not to condone slavery.

And regardless of your stance on "people's place" and "crossing lines" and again, "presentation," Haven13 is still presenting a reasonable POV.

If you're going to ignore all the points along the way where other measures were implemented, then sure, Haven's in the wrong here.

But since we're not going to do that in this discussion, we'll see that Haven indicated that it's a measure of last resort, and only used when an individual continues to break social norms without concern for those who abide by them.

Agree with those norms or not, agree with his response or not, you're overplaying what was said.


Char has it here.

And Char has is here as well.

You're absolutely right.

By that measure, the lone cheeser in a laid-back joint needs to be taught the error of his ways for his disrespect of his peers. Somebody needed to drop the hammer so to speak.

I disagree with a lot of this, but in particular the bold has confused the hell out of me. Where are you getting that anyone is doing that?

I swear, I must not even be reading the same thread as some of you...

Well here's some good news for you!

Haven said he did what you asked. Being as you ignored that part, looks like the only person breaking civility is you.

Oddly, I just went all gung-ho in your defense.

The wrong x man team can be uber meta
Nightcrawler prof x maybe a p5 is theemy meta atleast and I hate people who claim casual and then play hidden meta the worst of all its like grima wormtounge .

A physical altercation, much like HeroClix, involves both parties actively participating. If one party has no injuries and plenty of witnesses were present, only one person is getting charged.

I can take a beating to watch someone rot in jail and owe me every penny they've ever earned.

Did you, for all intents and purposes, just make a threat on HCRealms? Because it really seems that way.

I read it as he would start with an insult if I even wanted to try a meta team?
Did I mis read it ?

Great, now I too, can expect rorschachparadox to humiliate me later, probably with something involving Budpalmer.

I DO NOT find it cute.

I would like to point out that I have, however, gotten this response before from the Sun Tzu crowd.

Someone tell me again how correlation and causation are different.

Here is the post in question.

Bolded is the parts that were ignored by those taking umbrage at Haven's approach.
Underlined is the parts latched onto in their outrage.

To me, at least, this is fairly interesting.

You don't need me to humiliate you with BudPalmer, just you!

AND I'd like to point out that "straight up X-men" might bore me.

I am NOT a comic-accurate ONLY guy.

If you want to make a team of "all green guys" from different universes, I'll more than likely enjoy our game.

Again, all of this is about intent.