Until then, here's a link to the first write-up as I've been bouncing back and forth between the two.

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=106

Now that we know the swearing creatures were blocked in some manner - by a spell caster? - and are killers, maybe whomever would have frozen them in place on N1 will have a good lead for us?

I would think if a BD we would see another creature ushered along as well.

The part that's bothering me is the "weakening / will sapping" from them. Far from a female clown or I would wonder if they're the ones that did heavy damage to my vote threshhold for the day.

I'm here, I'm not silenced, I don't have much more to add unfortunately.

Something about Ice's death keeps pinging me and I know I stuck up for RParadox "shouldnt be lynched just out of paranoia of Mafia might have the uncommon CMD" but...does the Creature / Gillman seem like he wandered into his death after being MD by Red?

That doesn't take away from RParadox's claim. It means there might be a second PGO but one who is of an alignment where they didn't want to fess up to being a PGO as when RParadox - assuming he's being truthful - flipped Town, that would put the other quickly on the chopping block.

Guess I'm just trying to figure if we've two PGOs, one who is unfriendly (and maybe was one of the reasons for the push against RParadox: not wanting to draw attention from too many PGO deaths or his claim would be tougher to buy as "friendly" once RParadox was outted.)

I still feel the person who froze the swearing monsters on N1 likely has a solid lead and it's not like we've other people of higher priority to watch if they came forward. (Unless folks want to do the kind thing and look after the Monster Obsessed Guy ).

Still bothered by Mulder and Scully as that's evidence of three beings now that are pro-human and at least two (Sully and the Agents) aren't Town. Even the Ben Daimio's death was Neutral. (Yes, that means I should just pressure JP w/my own vote and I normally would but I -really- can't risk retaliatory vote that gets some non-attention paying bandwagoners or a Mafia that jumps on for a brutal lynch).

Heck, even "Lock, Shock and Barrel" - while fitting an animated / kids show Mafia - wouldn't fit a pro-human one as they were quite content to help Oogey kill off Santa and its' implied they've a history of violence (if their song and Jack's concern of them is taken at face value).

I haven't ventured a guess on the swearing monsters as there are plenty from all mediums that do it but having trouble placing ones that go in a group which leaves me wondering if they're a swarm of demons or some anime influence. There's a form of Fae that torment a host and can be seen and felt and heard only by the victim as they do things like swear, defecate, etc but if we're right about the tiny beings it would be strange to have multiple Fae making the write-up. What about the Mini-Ashes from "Army of Darkness"? Based on the way they had to gang up on Slender Man I just keep picturing Lilliputian sized beings.

Here's the swearing monsters from N1. To me it sounds as if the swearing is caused by the spell, but I suppose they could have been blocked and the swearing was their (in-character) reaction.

I feel like any JP pressure would basically be for a lynch at this point, so I'm going to wait a bit too see if anybody comes forward with some info first.

First, good morning. Second, not silenced.

I will have to take a look at the write up a bit more, but I have a question. Why was there no second death night 1?

I'd say this is likely the reason the 2nd kill didn't go through Night 1. It sounds like the swearing monsters were stopped by some sort of spell Night 1. So anyone who feels like they may have cast that sort of spell Night 1 likely stopped a kill.

Also: Not silenced.

Checking in to say I'm not silenced.

Will post thoughts once I get some coffee in me.

Does that look like the Minions to anyone else?

I'm not feeling good about children's movie monsters.

Also, posting from my phone while at my in-laws this morning, so my posts are quite short.

I was also thinking Gremlins for swearing monsters, but I'm not sure.

And are we sure The Phantom is on our side? I can think of one human he wasn't totally against...

Feel free to cop The Phantom if you have doubts about his loyalty...

Iceman wasn't MD'd.

Also, I'm not silenced, by the way.

Hey, I'm not silenced either.

At first, I thought that whatever killed the Creature (sad to see him go) was Jaws; I could totally see the SK being Jaws. The more I think about it, the more it's looking like Cthulu. The key point there is the voice that the Creature heard in its head.