No, because you tried to spin my pressure vote into me being scum.

Also, I did target mbauers last night and I did get information from it.

So now mbauers is just lying, bad form.

So you voted for me yesterday because of how I responded to the vote you cast yesterday. You realize that makes no sense, right?

I am not lying. You could not possibly have copped, tracked, or reverse tracked me last night, as I am town and I failed in my actions. And had I succeeded, which I didn't, I would still not have done anything suspicious as I don't have a kill power.

I'm just pissed because people vote for no reason, I'm going to have to claim, and then I have no chance to win because I'm outted early. I always lose Allstars games, and it's just frustrating that you are pretending that you have info that you don't have.

I do have info, and I'd like you to stop lying about that.

I meant why I kept my vote on last phase.

Here's the full exchange, so you can see Morph's scumminess.

Pax, I'm not lying. You have nothing on me because I didnt' kill anyone and I'm town.

I will full roleclaim with name, targets, and power as soon as you say your "evidence". You won't, because you have none. It's a stupid bluff that is wasting another day phase.

I do have evidence, and I'm not going to tell you what it is until you've claimed.

We know my evidence is pretty good from experience, so please stop being insulting.

You have nothing. Saying that is bull, because I'll full claim and you'll still just say "Nope, that's wrong."

I am sitting here right now, ready to type my name, power, and targets. I can't possibly look at your "info" and then go look up a tailored fake claim that is believable yet still sits "ok" with your evidence.

Say what you supposedly have, and I'll full claim right now. You already claim to be an info gatherer, so it's not like it makes you more of a target. You don't even have to name claim.

Say why I'm "suspicious" and I'll immediately full claim.

Otherwise you can continue with this nonsense and lynch a townie. The choice is yours, but you have NOTHING on me and we both know it, and I don't appreciate it.

Saying "I'm not saying what I have so he can't defend himself" makes this a lynching vote, not a pressure vote. The entire point of a pressure vote is to get people to speak and give information, which may or may not lead to a lynch.

Pressure makes people speak, which lets you catch them in a lie. Putting a vote on someone, and saying you don't want to hear their defense means you are out to lynch them. A lynch without a stated reason is not something I like to participate in.

But you say you got information on him last night, and that he is lying. That's all I need.

Vote Mbauers

I'm going to continue to not tell you.

This is just common mafia etiquette that you're breaking at this point.

You have a known info gatherer asking you to claim.

You have a good bit of the player base asking you to claim.

Yet, you're just being standoffish and uncooperative. That's fine, but you are the one wasting time right now.

Fine. I'm spiderman and his amazing friends, the goddamn town roleblocker. I targeted Venomdabomb, JRS, Normalview, and Grinner (while tracking DB with an extra given track), and both of my last night targets failed.

There's my full claim. What "evidence" do you have? Nothing. But you're going to say it now, right? let's hear it, as promised. But I doubt you'll say anything, will you.

You only just now claimed info gatherer. That isn't being a known info gatherer.

Even if Mbauers is scum, you are in the wrong here Pax. Mbauers has a right to be haughty. Saying to someone "Hey you! Claim!" without giving a reason is bad form. The more he protests, the scummier he looks.

I'd like to hear Paxz' reply to the claim.

Thank you, though you still voted for me. and I claimed, so you can go ahead and remove your vote now.

The goddamn town roleblocker would be Batman

Your claim doesn't match my evidence though, not as far as I can tell at any rate.

Though, I suppose unable to drain blood could be a reference to Spider-Man, but, I don't really see it, since Spider-Man can drain blood.

True, but others knew I was an info gatherer without me having to claim it. So it's known if you've read the thread.

mbauers has no right to be haughty. This is a game. I don't see how not giving a reason is bad form. All giving a reason does is prepare the defendant ahead of time, which is a bit silly, given the nature of the game.