Over here, a day phase is usually one day. Over there? At least a week. I want to say more like two, three weeks.

So after an initial chatting up of players and analyzing their messages, I'm ready to get down to pressuring someone and from there, I'm ready to get down to lynching someone.

Everybody else? Content to talk for weeks about metagame and whatnot.

But then I come back here and I'm trying to hold off and learn more before I vote but oops the day phase is over.

You just can't play both at once. The styles are counterproductive.

and there goes my happiness.

My work here is done.

*takes mod hat off*

This is probably why so many of us were confused by Mortal Kombat mafia.

Seriously, a 1-3 week long day phase would kill my interest in a game fast. It would lead to so much frustration, I would just leave. How many games are run a year on that format? 2?

*puts mod hat on*

The only thing I don't like about the claim, is that I can see Rokk saying that he's Magneto and Xavier (since he was given the other guy's role) and then after the game is over if it's revealed that he's Onslaught, him arguing that Onslaught is Maneto and Xavier so he was true to his TAK clause. Cause doesn't he claim to never lie about character claiming? Isn't that of his whole TAKyness (no pun intended)?

I don't think that's what he was saying. When you start putting words in people's mouths, it makes me uneasy about you like you are hiding something.

But you're also claiming you were given his character/role as an extra life. Just enough for you to finagle your way at arguing that you were true to your TAK clause after the game.

Vagueness galore... Vote: Darq

So is Onslaught... sorta

Again very defensive play when you don't even have any pressure on you. Can no one question you and still not be scum?

There is no justification for the TAK, nor even the suggestion that there is a way to "properly use it." That's just admitting that it is a tool, thus giving players who use it an unfair advantage (or disadvantage) as the situation may be.

I agree with this. Especially since IIRC this is not the first time that Rokk claims Mason partner who got his partner's results as a parting gift (though that is not exactly what he's saying here, but he did imply that for a bit).

I don't know that it's damning. I too figured you'd be Mags. Didn't you post somewhere that he's either one of your favorite characters or one of your favorite clix from this set?

May as well drop a claim. No reason a scummer can't have that restriction... See MBauers as Congorilla in that other game where he was scum.

Yeah a vague insufficient hint. Who are you?

Completely agree.

I believe Rokk's claim. I think these arguments against him are ridiculous. And it's precisely because I find it ridiculous that I'm not voting for Darq. He tends to be a bit(how can I put this delicately) narrow-mindedly obtuse at times, and usually that's when he's town.

Here is something I don't get, why isn't Rokk claiming which one he is? If his mason partner was truly janitored, then the mafia would know who he is by elimination. Why not tell the town?

The janitor doesn't always find out who the janitored person was. But I'm having a hard time figuring out why he wouldn't say myself. Unless he feels saying who he is will give a clue as to what his power might be at this point.

That's true, but I would say more often than not they do get the name.

I did claim who I was, back when I thought DF was dropping a hint to me that he knew I was Magneto (a misinterpretation - he said he was dropping a hint that he was Brotherhood). I admitted I'm Magneto and psn was Xavier (which should also answer your questions, Stan).

The other thing I'll ask Stan is: you need to make a plank and have both a hammer and a saw. You use the right tool for the job, correct? Nothing wrong with keeping both tools around though in case you need to make a final clean split with that hammer. That's why Truth is perfectly legit to use in a Game of Lying.

After all, the only game that matters is the Game of Thrones and we know everything is fair there.

Hm, I think he must mean SL.

It's a tool the same way pming another player or posting your role pm is a "tool."

It's used to confirm a player that has not done anything to make the other players think he's town.

That is absolutely, 100% against the spirit of the game. The only difference is that there isn't a rule against it.

And that when you're mafia, you can't use it properly so it can end up getting you lynched.

Plus it's just lazy. Rather than making arguments or pointing out evidence of your townieness, you just say "I don't ever lie" which keeps you from having to play the game well.

Yeah I was confused there for a sec.

I don't know if it's as bad as all that, JoH. I don't think it really makes that much difference in games here.

Also, looks to me that the most likely candidate for mafia would be Apoc and his Horsemen.