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IR, of all the names on your list the only one that I cannot read is Terry Brooks. I have yet to forgive him for writing "The Sword of Shannara" and ripping off JRR Tolkien. He has milked Shannara to death, and yet people still buy his books. I did find his "Magic Kingdom for Sale - Sold" series a whole lot more enjoyable. I refuse to have any of his Shannara books in the house, however.
I haven't read him yet, just have his books. And Tolkien was revolutionary, but not a terribly good author. Lord of the Rings for me is kind of like first edition D&D. Solid, but the bigger contribution was being the groundbreaker, the first one through the gate. But better stuff has come along. The LoTR movies were a lot better than the books.
Context is everything. If I made that comment on the floor of the United Nations, I would be scoffed at; if I made that in the mafia forums, you are supposed to smirk, roll your eyes, and realize that the absurdity of the statement reflects the absurdity of the offense.
Well then I only half passed the test. Mafia Forum fowl. Point goes to gff.
Quote : Originally Posted by Immortal_Raven
I haven't read him yet, just have his books. And Tolkien was revolutionary, but not a terribly good author. Lord of the Rings for me is kind of like first edition D&D. Solid, but the bigger contribution was being the groundbreaker, the first one through the gate. But better stuff has come along. The LoTR movies were a lot better than the books.
And Tolkien was revolutionary, but not a terribly good author. Lord of the Rings for me is kind of like first edition D&D. Solid, but the bigger contribution was being the groundbreaker, the first one through the gate. But better stuff has come along. The LoTR movies were a lot better than the books.
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Couldn't agree more.
Wow, you guys. Wow.
I respect your opinions, but I cannot agree with them.
Without JRRT, the whole genre of fantasy would not be where it is today. Better stuff is subjective, but Terry Brooks is definitely not in that category. In fact, I don't know what would be....
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Tolkien is a fantastic author, it's just that the style he chose mimics the style of medieval writings that are not easily accessible for a modern reader. Good literature does not have to be easily accessible.
I respect your opinions, but I cannot agree with them.
Without JRRT, the whole genre of fantasy would not be where it is today. Better stuff is subjective, but Terry Brooks is definitely not in that category. In fact, I don't know what would be....
That's exactly what I'm saying. He was the groundbreaking author, that's his contribution to the genre more than his writing. His writing is solid, but George R.R. Martin and Brent Weeks outclass him easily on writing alone. I didn't put Terry Brooks in the good category because I haven't read him yet, but I did give credit to Tolkien. He is the grandfather of fantasy fiction.
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Tolkien is a fantastic author, it's just that the style he chose mimics the style of medieval writings that are not easily accessible for a modern reader. Good literature does not have to be easily accessible.
Debatable. So many authors who are considered good literature are average at best. You know why Tolkien downgrades for me, because he's boring for long stretches, same as Robert Jordan. But Robert Jordan was my first brush with fantasy just as I suspect Tolkien was charles' first brush, so we have soft spots for them. Objectively, Jordan is an average author, but he'll always be one of my favorites.
An for overrated authors in my book: Faulkner tops the list by a mile, Hemingway and Fitzgerald are close, and I'm not terribly fond of Tom Clancy. Rowling, Meyer, and Collins are panderers, and that's a bit different. They write to the crowd.