I really like that Molecule Man.

He is fantastic - as long as the company doesn't screw up how terrain works. Who knows what lurks in the heart of new players?

Hoping to see more changes before I can make a singles list for this set.

We'll see how much interest there are in these.

I only still have Xavin, I think.

There are so much better Things, Sues, and Johnnys - why would I want to go out of my way to reacquire stuff I sold off or never went after when it was modern?

I know there people who want these and maybe they will make one for a character I still use - but we'll see how much 'value' they have once the initial "ZOMG! they are shiny and new" goes away.

I like Molecule Man too, certainly more playable than the original one. One question about him though: Is there a blanket game rule about terrain and occupancy? Or should his special power have the phrase "unoccupied terrain" in it? Otherwise, what if someone wants to take smoke terrain that someone is standing on and make it blocking terrain?

I’m pretty sure Giant-Man is bigger, stronger and more durable than Ant-Man, so Hank has been accessing all 3 axes pretty early on (the original Ant-Man didn’t change strength-level, so you can argue he only accessed 2).

The new thing Scott learned is how to access the axes independently of each other. That way, he can become super durable and strong without having to grow giant-sized. That probably also meant his body could reach greater strength levels without the strain that growth usually puts on the body. He basically did what Vision does.

The Golden Rule of Occupancy (p. 18 of the Core Rulebook) would prevent you from making that choice. I believe it would specifically prevent you from choosing blocking terrain for that square.

Thanks for the reminder!

We’re kind of saying the same thing? Those that accessed the size always grew, so they couldn’t keep that durability up, the strain was too much. I hear you though, my wording was off I suppose. He is able to access them to independently of each other and utilize them all at his normal size.

YESS! Have some rep, I forgot about those!

Ya takin' notes, Wizkids?

They should have their own Espionage / Mutant C.I.A. Trait

Yeah, that seems about right

So really, how do we get Wizkids to make an errata for Jim Hammond for flight and the Avengers key word? LOL. This is egregious!

Jim Hammond is the new Chaos War Binary i see...

i appreciate that, thanks. but (and that invalidates what comes before, but (within a but) i really do appreciate your effort here to make it work) i don't see that on this dial. i don't see burgeoning powerhouse come out to play. i don't even see giAntman. i just see the same ol' shrinky dinky with wits that we'd expect for 5, maybe 6 clicks.

for whatever reason, the designer for these 4 decided they were all going to be 9 clix long. each dial broken into 3 segments of 3 clicks that has no variation of overlap (saving scott's ss) amongst those 3 clearly distinctive blocks

it looks a lot like the 2 section dials we've been shown for ww80. topdial and back dial. little flow, or interplay of different powers. here's the sections. it's just that for whatever reason these 4 out of the whole set get a middle dial, too, but the same philosophy of design
thanks for bringing that up.

manbat sucked

no, really, but he did. super fragile and his dial wasn't deep. his whole design was to fly into the enemy (ironically, quite quickly) where he'd be eaten alive

yeah, medusa's got some blank defense, but it's not enough to handwave that deep dial. plus she ain't exactly weak even with it. she can also hit for 5(!) then. and even before then 9 clix of life is stellar. even by the old game's standard. if she had topdial invuln, that'd shave 2 off a hit. with 9 clix of life, she's able to absorb more than invuln being there. it's a whole lot of dial for the cost. it just is.

here's the thing: i was very vocal against jw. and i'm very vocal against these here, too. i'm not being extreme. i'm not "jw was weak so ramp up the power!" nor am i "caav was too strong, neuter everyone!" i'm not being extreme, i'm passionately moderate. give me some goldilocks clix. not too strong, not too weak. i want that just-right, man, y'know? and whatever it winds up being, whether a hair on the strong or weak side, let it cost consistently set-to-set. since we're talking about her, medusa has been made at 75pts in particular a lot. and a comparison of the 4 dials is just a major head-scratcher. and not all of them are super old, either. so normal "power creep" progression expectations factoring in, it's clear that the math just doesn't add up

i just want goldilocks clix, my man. fairly costed, accurate to the character, fun

outside tournament play, sculpt swapping is always an option

thanks for catching those

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