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Surfer Doom with 2 gems and double Aim Renegade I think is better then Stranger. He can be agressive and not have to worry about turning the dial. Tho only problem is that he needs a bit better formation options then Stranger.
That was one of the same teams I was thinking it will definetly make a big impact and I like the fact that it is more agressive and faster paced but I to disagree about being better than stranger renegades, sure it might be quicker but stranger has more staying power and to many more options to pass up for me
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I remember years ago you could. there was a popular Dominic Petros team with con artists, hawk,and other figs with activation clicks. Petros would PW and everything would be ready to go. then petros could follow it up with a barrier.
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Another practice game and another Stranger win. Really I think the problem is not as much Stranger as it is double barrier. Solve the double barrier problem you have a winner.
Barrier problem solved: Leech within 6 shuts down any and all barriers :D. Now just to build a very good team with Leech. Maybe some lock-down or penetrating back up.
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Leech is a two edge sword that will screw you when you come in to attack Stranger. No running shot or hss is going to hurt. Getting those magical 10 ranges of the past with running shot is almost a no go.
Right now Air Ross is new meta of dealing with the barrier stall. Every thing else I've tried has failed. I realize that you need to take Stranger out in one turn or he will use regen to get back up. I think I got some stuff that could kill him now that I know what I need. I have some theme and non-theme solutions. I need to test them. I will do that when I wake up. Here is what I will be testing. Feel free to eat them alive. Right now all i want to do is kill Stranger with double barrier. I'll work on tweaking later. I have forefited the idea of beating 300 Galactus. I think that Galactus will ruin anyone else day who plan to take on TNT and hit him instead.
Failed last night not by much. See if you can make it work. Credit to Megalotus man for the team. Give him rep please.
Magneto 189
HFC Guard 37
Aim Renegade 34
IG 40
Solider
Nova Prime 150
Nova Corps Recruit 50
GF Thunderbolt Ross 55
IG 40
Long shot team
FF Sinestro 100
Eradicator 135
GF Thunderbolt Ross 55
Reality Gem 10
Johnidschultz tribute team. lol.
FF Sinestro 100
GF Thunderbolt Ross 55
Emma Frost 81
Roulette 35
Astral Strange 13
IG 15 SPACE GEM to carry
Another practice game and another Stranger win. Really I think the problem is not as much Stranger as it is double barrier. Solve the double barrier problem you have a winner.
It's both though. Yes, I definitely think the Double Barrier alone wrecks a lot of teams because they have no answer for it. It's a weakness of the Tentpole teams people have been switching to.
However if it wasn't Stranger (ie: the guy who benefits the MOST from 2/3 on the Gauntlet) behind the Barrier the team wouldn't be as scary. And because of his ability to be Colossal it can be hard to hide from him while still getting close to the Barrier.
Also it's a theme team so that makes it even tougher.
Another thing, imo, is that Ross only opens a window in the Barrier for a few turns, at most. As Stranger can set up the Barrier himself, or use Support.
I also think Leech might be one of the best solutions, although he can be dangerous for you as well, because it stops Barrier but also the HSS/RS Stranger will want to employ. The problem is who goes with him? I lean towards Hollywood as he doesn't need Power Actions. Loki can do ok without the Power Actions as well.
I think Galactus will be less popular than Ziran at 300, but I think Ziran is more dangerous so that doesn't help us much.
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I have an inability to keep teams close to the vest. :/
Here's a team idea I've been considering:
GSX Cable 140 + IG (full) 40 + New Mutants ATA 4
SM Matter-Eater Lad [x3] 105
=289, Future.
MELs can taxi Cable, and soak damage via the ATA. They can also eat barrier tokens as free actions, setting up shots for Cable. Downside is lack of M&A.
Alternatively, substitute 2 MELs for either Sun Boy or Star Boy. Either combo gives you less soak, but more options. Sun Boy provides additional offense, where Star Boy grants TK and can shut down RS and HSS. I really want to try these teams out.
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Solider
Nova Prime 150
Nova Corps Recruit 50
GF Thunderbolt Ross 55
IG 40
Long shot team
FF Sinestro 100
Eradicator 135
GF Thunderbolt Ross 55
Reality Gem 10
Johnidschultz tribute team. lol.
FF Sinestro 100
GF Thunderbolt Ross 55
Emma Frost 81
Roulette 35
Astral Strange 13
IG 15 SPACE GEM to carry
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I really like the first team. It is one I thought of last night before going to sleep. Glad others have thought of it first! Its good but not great. A blitz Magog team could cause a lot of problems for it.
The rest are good. I am def going to try the Soldier team. Only thing I see that could hurt you is stealth and multiple defensive abilities.
I was thinking of Cable as well. I just don't know how to set him up. At the end of his dial he is a beast.
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I think you are right. The issue is Stranger and being able to name powers. Getting powers at random is not making him broke. Being able to bide time and not suffer huge losses is what is making things broke. It lets me believe that if you are going to take out Stranger's team you will either kill off his support and make them come to you or kill stranger in one turn and kill the support next. Right now I think killing Stranger is the better option after the air strike.
I still think the best option against Stranger is Thanos. Not being able to Regenerate or heal his support hurts what he wants to do. But I really don't know who'd be best to build around him.
I still think the best option against Stranger is Thanos. Not being able to Regenerate or heal his support hurts what he wants to do. But I really don't know who'd be best to build around him.
Here is the problem with Thanos. You still have to deal with barrier. It won't slow him down much because the first push is essential. So Stranger will always be one roll ahead. Next he can running shot psiblast with an AIM Renegade to 1 shot Thanos.
Here is the problem with Thanos. You still have to deal with barrier. It won't slow him down much because the first push is essential. So Stranger will always be one roll ahead. Next he can running shot psiblast with an AIM Renegade to 1 shot Thanos.
Why would he always be one roll ahead? They can both roll 2/3 turns.
I still think the best option against Stranger is Thanos. Not being able to Regenerate or heal his support hurts what he wants to do. But I really don't know who'd be best to build around him.
Not sure. But I do know that I have faced Thanos using Stranger and it doesn't really do what you think it would. It simply prevents Stranger from getting to 2 or 3 on the gauntlet INSANELY fast. But because Stranger can start using HSS to plink Thanos or his support on the 3rd turn, Thanos gets out actioned really quickly. Plus Stranger still gets a jump on the gauntlet because you push him to the 2nd click (turning the gauntlet 3 turns in a row).
Thanos can't keep up with him regardless of the healing.