I hate you all you are all rules lawyers and your all ignoring me.

Just kidding I love you all espcaily sandra

I apologize. My last post came out a bit more contentious than I intended. There was nothing but civility meant there, but re-reading it, it may not seem that way.

Like I said earlier, RCE specifically allows you to make a ranged combat attack against a single target and increase their damage by 2. But once you go Soaring, even though you have a power that specifically states that, you can no longer use it.

I already did! First off try not to get worked up about this. Secondly it is a rule that soaring characters can only effect other soaring characters. You're saying because he has L/C that he should be able to use it? Well from a logical point of view I agree with you but at the same time there are a great many people out there who feel that charge and CCE or running shot and RCE should work together. Just because you think it is logical and it should be doesn't make it so. Like I said, I think we should all calm down and wait for an official ruling. P.S. I would prefer that you could attack from soaring but I really don't want to get my hopes up like i did with flurry and inc.!

I went through this argument with my brothers when Man-Bat rookie came out (before someone noticed he had no WING!), and then we ruled it as no purely for the price of that guy. But for Mimic, I have to think deeper than pricetags...

Oh, and as a quick double-check clarification, a L/C character on a roof can attack a figure on the ground next to him, right? Cause to me, that's also not L/C-able (unless you're saying climbing down, but is that practical at all?)

I think we should all dance until we get an official ruling.

yes dance, I like dacnin, and attention I like attention

If you're fig with L/C is on the roof and Batman is on the grounded square next to you hiding in a bush, then you can't hit him with range, and you're not adjacent for a Close Combat Attack, so the only way to hit him is if you have L/C (or certain TAs that allow you to ignore hindering terrain).

Now, you're purposefully leaving out parts of the rules to back up your argument, which is what makes me think that you know that you're wrong and are just playing devil's advocate.

I'll colorize the portions that I know you're ignoring to help yourself out:
The portion of the Leap/Climb that I cited refers to characters (Note: just characters. Not grounded characters. Not flying characters. Just characters.) being able to attack soaring and non-soaring figures regardless of elevation.

That means a character, grounded or not, attacking a grounded/hovering/soaring character on or below the edge of elevated terrain, or even nowhere near elevated terrain.

When you add those parts back into the Leap/Climb power, your argument doesn't really have any weight to it.

Has it only previously been used on non-flying figures? Yes. Does that mean that it doesn't work exactly the same way when it is included on flying figures? No.

If you could attack anyone, soaring or non-soaring, elevated or not elevated, with Leap/Climb before it was put on a flying figure, there is no reason to think that you can't still do so.

JancenB, although I admire your zeal, I think the big question is, "Which comes first the rule book or the pac card?". The rulebook explaines how the game is played (and in it is the part of how soarers and only attack other soarers). The pac explains how the powers work in game-play. I COULD BE WRONG (so please don't flame me) but I would think that nothing could "trump" the rulebook and the mechanics it explains therein.

From the Universe rulebook, page 12:
"It is important to note that the effects of powers and abilities and team abilities override standard HeroClix rules."

Your argument is becoming more and more compelling. Like I said I'm on your side but trying to be as objective as possible (because of the #### flurry/incapacitate thing). I will say that making an exception to the soaring rule could be a mistake but it's not my call!

yep the rule book over ride the rulebook how cool is that

in other news please pay attention to me.

You've not gotten some attention now, happy?. LOL Seriously try not to be the annoying little brother and at least add something to the conversation!

Soaring characters can make close combat attack while soaring ( against another ajacent soaring figure) So sine l/c say that they can make an attack against soaring and non-soaring characters. It would seem to justify Sandra's opinion on the matter.