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If I get time, I'll try to dig up those back issues and see what happened. Or, maybe I'll surf over to the Superman homepage and see if they've got commentary on the story up there.
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JacinB is right.
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Superman-based interactive entertainment products tend to be very bad, because an accurate Superman game would have one button labeled "Use Powers" and you would press it and win.
Alright, here's what I got from the Superman Homepage info:
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As Krypton explodes, Kal suddenly finds himself standing atop a building. The landscape around him is completely unscathed from any battle. The sun in the sky is no closer than it should be. Kal suddenly hears his father's voice, and turns to see a floating image of a robotic head. Jor-el tells him that this is a dream. He will maintain the reality. With his influence, Krypton will continue in a golden ago. However, it must completely be sealed off from the rest of the world. Either he must stay, or he needs to leave forever. With a sad look on his face, he thanks Jor-el for being a good father, and touches the energy crystal.
Inside the Fortress, Superman feeds the crystal into the Eradicator, and hopes the truth about the other Krypton can cure his madness. The giant tells Superman that he feels healed and complete for the first time in a long time. He then tells him that the Krypton he saw was one of 80,000 years ago, a period that Jor-el had loved and therefore written about in his journals. Then he tells him that Jor-el had been a perfect match to the real Jor-el, and that only he could have restarted the program. Superman then tells the Eradicator to leave the holograms of both his parents. While they weren't real, he learned more from them then he ever could his "real" parents. Plus, he still has Krypto.
Inside the completely isolated Krypton, Jor-el and Lara sit on a hilltop picnicking, and waving. Across the field, a young black-haired boy waves back as he rides an animal. On his chest is a very familiar pentagon.
So, we've got Jor-El and Lara 'alive' on this 'new Krypton' at the end of the story, with a boy who looks like young Clark (which would be the now grown-up Clark we have in this story, explaining why we have both Clark and Superman in the same place at the same time).
Jor-El and Lara are apparently androids, though, which would explain the yellow fluid and no blood when Equus rips Jor-El in half. It would also explain why when Jor-El asks Equus what he is, Equus responds 'Alive.'
You know, I'm starting to think that re-reading that story would help this story make a lot more sense ...
Quote : Originally Posted by hair10, Gentlegamer, doctorfate77, d_knight7, etc.
JacinB is right.
Quote : Originally Posted by Lore Sjöberg
Superman-based interactive entertainment products tend to be very bad, because an accurate Superman game would have one button labeled "Use Powers" and you would press it and win.
So, the sphere that caused the 'Vanishing' has somehow managed to just send people onto this phantom universe Krypton that Kal-El and Jor-El created ...
Now, I'd like to know how Zod and Ares are linked ... and, I might be wrong, but I think that Zod's new armor looks a lot like the armor that Ares traditionally wears. Compare Ares' new 'Clix sculpt to the last page where we see Zod.
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Quote : Originally Posted by hair10, Gentlegamer, doctorfate77, d_knight7, etc.
JacinB is right.
Quote : Originally Posted by Lore Sjöberg
Superman-based interactive entertainment products tend to be very bad, because an accurate Superman game would have one button labeled "Use Powers" and you would press it and win.
I don't think this is the "return to Krypton" Zone, I think it's THE Phantom Zone and Superman constructed "Metropia" as an emergency evacuation point should Earth be threatened. He constructed a Jor-El defender (so he wouldn't have to do it) and somehow distilled the Clark persona out of himself. I'm really hating this story now. Go to the DarkCrisis review thread to see me take a dump on it.
Originally posted by JacinB
And, am I crazy to think that the mysterious military guy who's trying to get the knife from Halcyon might be a disguised Ares? I mean, he's obviously got a thing for war, he's got connections to Wonder Woman (who doesn't like him) and the Amazons, and he's got dogs named Zeus and Apollo ...
Two dogs named Zeus and Apollo?? That'd be the groundskeeper on Magnum PI, Johnathan Quail Higgins. I always wondered what happened to him... now I know.
After going back and re-reading the details of the Return to Krypton story, I'm liking the For Tomorrow story a lot more.
Remember, the Krypton of the 'Return to Krypton' story was inside (or, at least 'through') the Phantom Zone.
It would appear that, as a result of the discussion that Kal-El and Lois had then, Superman created Metropia within the Phantom Zone on the Krypton that we last saw Jor-El, Lara, and their son on.
We have no idea how quickly time passes there, but it would be reasonable to think that 'Clark' there is the son of Jor-El and Lara 'all grown up'.
Metropia is clearly Kryptonian architecture.
Is the story perfect? No. Not by a long shot. We took way to long to get to where it is now, and there were too many things just 'thrown in' for no apparent reason.
But, the story's considerably better if you go back and look at all of the threads that Azzarello is tying together in it.
The Superman Homepage reviewer says that the story is bad, not because it's not good, but because it makes the reader 'do the work' and, 'in America, Joe Reader is led by the nose, or not led at all.'
Having gone back and 'done the work' (or, at least a little of it), the story is really making a lot more sense.
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JacinB is right.
Quote : Originally Posted by Lore Sjöberg
Superman-based interactive entertainment products tend to be very bad, because an accurate Superman game would have one button labeled "Use Powers" and you would press it and win.
Originally posted by Mr_JTR Two dogs named Zeus and Apollo?? That'd be the groundskeeper on Magnum PI, Johnathan Quail Higgins. I always wondered what happened to him... now I know.
OMG! I thought of posting someting like this earlier, when Jacin first posted that about Ares. I just could not, for the life of me remember Higgin's name!
ROTFLMAO!
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Originally posted by Mr_JTR Two dogs named Zeus and Apollo?? That'd be the groundskeeper on Magnum PI, Johnathan Quail Higgins. I always wondered what happened to him... now I know.
Actually, at the end of that, wasn't it revealed that he wasn't the groundskeeper, but the guy who actually owned the place ... ?
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JacinB is right.
Quote : Originally Posted by Lore Sjöberg
Superman-based interactive entertainment products tend to be very bad, because an accurate Superman game would have one button labeled "Use Powers" and you would press it and win.
Originally posted by JacinB Actually, at the end of that, wasn't it revealed that he wasn't the groundskeeper, but the guy who actually owned the place ... ?
He hinted he was really Robin Masters, problem there was, a few years before, they showed the Real Robin, tho not his face, it was Orson Welles' voice. And Magnum knew him then.
The big question is, does this mean Higgins was really Ares all along?
on the side, did Bendis write the last story? cause saying Higgins was/is Masters seems some how flawed, knowing Masters had shown up a few years before.
Originally posted by vaders sabre I dont care to much for this new ZOD. I wish they would have made the one from the SM movies. Man I hope I dont pull him
Well you know what they say, want in one hand...............
Anyway, this the Zod that we are getting is IMHO an awesome character, worthy of the name.
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Then, they'll get all the Zod's together and let them duke it out, to the death, last one standing is the ultimate Zod... err... maybe not "ultimate", as Marvel would sue someone over that, but you know what I mean.