um thats:

61 (x3) E KQ
75 LE Ult Clint
05 Pog Alfred

total 263

so E Livewire(37), E Harley Quinn (36), or LE Cameron Chase (36), would all be nice fits.

I'm really not liking the new format of the boards... anyway... I forgot to include LE Zatanna Zatara at 35pts to add the Mystic damage, if the opponent ever hits anything.

i dont know about vet spoiler. i have had a lot of use out of her. she works great on pounce teams, and i like her 9 speed. i still use vet robin but she has taken up 50% of the robin usage though.

There is one other reason that Vet Spoiler is better than Vet Robin.....Damage Shield! Makes her one of the best tie-up pieces in the game. especially against RCE figs. Opponents can either try to take her out with a close combat attack (since she'll obviously be in hindering) and take feedback damage, or try to break away and waster their actions (since she can just chase them around the board. Fun fun!

A pretty good breakdown of the figs, but I'd like to see a few more positives about the pieces. E Arsenal is quite an effective secondary attacker for his points, and running shot is enough for me to use him over havoc. The LE is certainly the best, but the E isn't much worse, especially for the $$$ price.

Spoiler is the definition of tie-up piece, especially in the Vet, and with Icons around the corner Hypertime will likely be phased out of tournament play. Its really splitting hairs to say Vet Robin is that much better than her.

Kid Quantum is overpriced, but the triple incap with RS and wildcard gives her great flexibility to borrow some offense or defense. Also, her offense is a defense as well, making figs push or think twice about shooting back. At 61pts the E shouldn't be taking up too much space on your force, but is still probably better for 400+ games where you've got some points to spare.

Thanks Poet. Maybe I'm continuing to misunderstand what you're going for, but I still can't see the benifit of Stunning Blow on KQ.

From what you described (italicized above), you're just using regular old Incapacitate. Stunning Blow specifically adds a character's base damage to an Incapacitate attack (wich would otherwise become 0 damage). Incapacitate itself always deals a token and thus a push if they get two.

@ the rest of the gang, I can see the use of Pounce on Spoiler (and I'm convinced she's a better candidate than Robin). Its a fun idea, but I can't say I'd throw away 37 points just to make one attack for 3 damage with a 10 AV.
And I really do see it as throwing away the points, KOing Spoiler after she's pounced is just a matter of dealing 4 damage in 1 shot, and there are so many ways that can happen nowadays.

Thanks for the positive spin Lowguppy.
There's good things to say about any (ok, most) figs, but the bad so far outweights the good in these cases, I just felt like cutting loose.

Per the quote above, the Catch-22 there is that she's too pricey at 61 points to fit on anything less than 400 point teams. But in anything more than 400 points your opponent most likely has the means to easily take her out in 1 hit (easy 61 points!) Trick Shot will get around Stealth and blocking figs (and who puts TS on any fig with less than 2 base + RCE?) Even with a mystic retaliation, most of the time I'd take a click if it means 61 points in one shot.

Overall, I see her benifits, I just don't see any way to exploit them without getting the short end of the stick.

I've used E Kid Quantum and V Spoiler quite effectively. Like someone said, Spolier is excellent with Pounce. Combat Reflexes and Leap/Climb help her do damage and then get back to a medic.

E Kid Quantun + Mystics + Batman TA can be nasty. I used her once to Running Shot Incap two figures, then on the next turn did it again while moving next to V Batman, keeping him from making a ranged attack on my other figures. She tied up him and V Demon for a few turns because they were afraid to hit her due to the Mystics TA.

I always appreciate well thought out critiques but to balance the scales I've always wanted a crappy Teen Titan so that I could feed health to another piece, the one time I used Kid Quantum, she hid behide someone until she could running shot out and double-inc eventually winning me the game, and Spoiler's av and damage are just hgih enough that if she's flown into place she can weaken an opponent that doesn't want to waste the time to kill her. I was on the recieving end of the embarrassing Spoiler attacks. She just kept hitting me through my toughness without being worth attacking! These should never be the focus of your team but they're so crappy they're actually good.