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I'm betting this feat is overcosted and we won't see it used much.
The whole leadership power dosen't work well in 300 points games (for me) because I prefer to build around a 150 - 175 point piece and play 400 point games. I wish that leadership plus a D4, D5 or D6 would result in either and extra action or the ability to remove a token from any figure.
Tactics doesn't say anything about making another roll. It simply says that you're making a rolls. So theorectically it can be explained as Leadership, but you roll for 3-6.
If you get 4 or higher, you get 2 actions (1 for anyone, the other for the characters with the same TA). If you only get 3, you'd get the action granted by Tactics (one action given to character with same TA). 1-2 gives no actions.
"Pre-requsite: Leadership and any team ability
When the character uses Leadership, on a result of 3–6 add an extra action to the other action granted by Leadership to your available actions for the turn. This extra action can be used only by a friendly character with the same team symbol as the character."
But if you roll a 3, you can't add another action to the one you were granted by Leadership, because a 3 is a failure on your Leadership roll. You weren't granted a Leadership action. The only way you can add another action to your Leadership is if the Leadership action came from a separate roll.
In my day, we didn't have Heroclix. If you were being attacked by Superman with a 3d dumpster, you just had to hope you could outrun him.
When the character uses Leadership, on a result of 3–6 add an extra action to the other action granted by Leadership to your available actions for the turn. This extra action can be used only by a friendly character with the same team symbol as the character."
But if you roll a 3, you can't add another action to the one you were granted by Leadership, because a 3 is a failure on your Leadership roll. You weren't granted a Leadership action. The only way you can add another action to your Leadership is if the Leadership action came from a separate roll.
But it does not say anything about succeeding or failing the Leadership roll. It just mentions die results. To "use" Leadership, you roll a D6, no matter what the result. If you happen to roll 3 or less, the power gives you no advantage, but you still use the power. Or would you claim you do not use an attack power if you miss the attack roll?
I understand what you're saying, but I still wonder what the real intent of this means. I'm only going by the wording of the card. It says to add an action to the one you've been granted by using Leadership. If you roll a 3, you don't get an action from Leadership. How can you add an action to another action when there isn't another action? This isn't like adding 1 to 0, it says specifically to add "an extra action to the other action granted by Leadership". If you don't get a Leadership action, you can't get one from Tactics. So it's either another poorly written card or it implies there needs to be two rolls. Too bad there's no one in authority to take this question to.
In my day, we didn't have Heroclix. If you were being attacked by Superman with a 3d dumpster, you just had to hope you could outrun him.
I understand what you're saying, but I still wonder what the real intent of this means. I'm only going by the wording of the card. It says to add an action to the one you've been granted by using Leadership. If you roll a 3, you don't get an action from Leadership. How can you add an action to another action when there isn't another action? This isn't like adding 1 to 0, it says specifically to add "an extra action to the other action granted by Leadership". If you don't get a Leadership action, you can't get one from Tactics. So it's either another poorly written card or it implies there needs to be two rolls. Too bad there's no one in authority to take this question to.
The wording of the card sayz add an extra action to the other granted by leadership right? But if you get a 3, there is no other action. The wording to me simply says if you got your leadership, you got an extra action (now you got 2) or if you failed your leadership with a roll of a 3, you only get the extra. I think the wording was to make sure you understood that you got an additional action besides your leadership. It's not saying that you had to make your leadership to gain the extra, it's just saying that the tactics action is in addition to the leadership action.
I can think of some low cost piece leadership pieces that would benefit from this since they're not as effective with Inspiring Command as the higher costs pieces are.
Characters that come to mind are V Havok, E XPL Storm, R Nightwing, old Aquaman, old E Captain America, U Wasp, etc.
It might be fun to use on Sgt Rock as well...
V Sgt Rock 40
with Inspiring Command 15
with Tactics 20
V Easy Company Medic 19
V Easy Company Medic 19
LE Little Sure Shot 15
V Easy Company Soldier 18
+ Armor Piercing 10
V Easy Company Soldier 18
+ Armor Piercing 10
V Easy Company Soldier 18
+ Armor Piercing 10
V Easy Company Soldier 18
+ Armor Piercing 10
V Easy Company Soldier 18
+ Armor Piercing 10
V Easy Company Soldier 18
+ Armor Piercing 10
Total 296 points.
Geez! That is some team. But how do you protect Rock from a tent-pole figure?
Also, would you need a separate card for each Soldier? Or can you present one card, and say "I'm paying for it to be on each one."
Quote : Originally Posted by Quebbster
It might be fun to use on Sgt Rock as well...
V Sgt Rock 40
with Inspiring Command 15
with Tactics 20
V Easy Company Medic 19
V Easy Company Medic 19
LE Little Sure Shot 15
6x V Easy Company Soldier 18
+ Armor Piercing 10
Total 296 points.
Tactics card says when a character uses leadership, and that is making the roll, not if the roll succeeds.
So with the feat card a roll of 1 or 2 is a miss, not lack of use.
A roll of 4 to 6 will grant both the regular leadership and the bonus second move for a character with the same TA.
So for 20 points we get a 66% chance at a leadership roll from the regular 50%, plus the extra, same Ta move on a roll of 3 to 6.
If only we had an RA with only 4 days until the pre-release.
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