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"Killing Captain America was really a more compelling story for our readers," said Dan Buckley, publisher at Marvel Entertainment. "It was more interesting than to see Cap in jail, reflecting. Besides exploring the question of who killed Captain America, we will be focusing on who was Steve Rogers the character, since not much really known about him.
"We know about Captain America, the hero, the icon, but we don't know much about Steve. We will be exploring what Steve Rogers meant to those close to him and on a macro level, what Captain America's death means to the Marvel Universe. We'll be exploring what Captain America the icon means and whether the legacy should be carried on," Buckley said.
Buckley also said there are no plans to resurrect Captain America — for the time being.
"Steve Rogers is dead," he said. "As [Marvel Entertainment editor in chief] Joe [Quesada] says, 'A death should mean something.
I could see the Marvel gang misleadeing folks in their own print material, but I cannot see them lying to the legitimate news media.
Cap's dead, and the Punisher is the new cap. Deal with it
Dude, I knew that was going to happen as soon as I saw him pick up Cap's mask at the end of Civil War #7 when Cap was still alive. Now that Cap's dead he's just got more reason to fight the power.
Marvel has never mislead in blunt statements. Its always cryptic messages, fake covers, or "clues."
When they say, "He's dead. Ms. Marvel lied," and your still saying he's alive? Well, denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
Either enjoy the ride, read a wonderfully sorry storyline about a world without Captain America (which can be a moving tale), or move on. The folks who aren't buying stuff anymore seem to simply say so and leave it at that, and that, I appreciate.
I can honestly say that the death of Scarlet Spider has broken my heart and helped to further my distrust of Marvel comics. I got completely out of comics with one such incident back a couple of years ago (anyone remember a little thing called the Spider-man clone saga?) Oh, I've cooled down since it happened and thought about it and read numerous things about it, and I believe that Ben Reilly will be brought back. As was noted before they've put others in the mask for a while, only to bring back the one true Spider-Man in the end.
Plus with Batman's broken back and Superman's death, that was all part of greater story lines within the books that ran for over a year. Marvel has killed off Thor as well only to be bringing back him this spring (I say yay, but you have to wonder how you're gonna bring him back from Ragnarok)
So I agree with the person who said this is gonna last at least a year, precedent has been set.
All that said, it still doesn't make it right. Scarlet Spider does belong to us all, as someone stated earlier. My earliest memory of reading a comic book, involves a Scarlet Spider comic. He has always been my favorite character. And I hope to goodness Marvel does the right thing with this and restores my faith in this. Because if they keep going the way they're going, fans may begin to show they're beliefs in another way and putting their hard earned dough elsewhere.
Edited your statements so I can agree with them, also hoping to show you how ridiculous it is to act like a company owes you a character. Any comic book character can be a favorite, can be killed, and can STILL belong to a person. Really, Captain America isn't yours. It's stupid to think that just because you grew up on him means he should always be alive. You grew up on Cap. I grew up on Scarlet. How is it that you deserve your character while I don't deserve mine?
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Edited your statements so I can agree with them, also hoping to show you how ridiculous it is to act like a company owes you a character. Any comic book character can be a favorite, can be killed, and can STILL belong to a person. Really, Captain America isn't yours. It's stupid to think that just because you grew up on him means he should always be alive. You grew up on Cap. I grew up on Scarlet. How is it that you deserve your character while I don't deserve mine?
I don't think that's what he meant. We all have characters we love and are saddened by their deaths and "deaths." Mine is Nightcrawler. What I think Winteragent is saying though is that Captain America represents some more to people than just a mere beloved childhood character. He is the heart of America, a symbol if you will. We, the comic readers, have given that symbol power and taken it far. As some say, Captain America is someone to look up. He's a role model for many. Take him away from us, and it's like you're taking away a part of our very culture. Please don't consider someone stupid just because they are passionate about something.
I don't think that's what he meant. We all have characters we love and are saddened by their deaths and "deaths." Mine is Nightcrawler. What I think Winteragent is saying though is that Captain America represents some more to people than just a mere beloved childhood character. He is the heart of America, a symbol if you will. We, the comic readers, have given that symbol power and taken it far. As some say, Captain America is someone to look up. He's a role model for many. Take him away from us, and it's like you're taking away a part of our very culture. Please don't consider someone stupid just because they are passionate about something.
I like Nightcrawler too!
There's a common trend on the Realms that people treat killing Cap as if Marvel was stealing something that belonged to them. As if Cap being dead means that we can't still idolize him, look up to him, care about him. Cap's death doesn't mean he's gone, guys. It means he won't be in a comic for a while, sure. But all this junk about losing the symbol? He's still a symbol for you!
I don't consider him stupid, but I consider posts like his (which I've seen frequently discussing this topic) to be silly, and very self-centered. We all lose favorites, we all lose icons, it's how the world goes. It's not like you can't wear a Cap t-shirt anymore or Marvel undercover operatives will junk shot you.
I don't think that's what he meant. We all have characters we love and are saddened by their deaths and "deaths." Mine is Nightcrawler. What I think Winteragent is saying though is that Captain America represents some more to people than just a mere beloved childhood character. He is the heart of America, a symbol if you will. We, the comic readers, have given that symbol power and taken it far. As some say, Captain America is someone to look up. He's a role model for many. Take him away from us, and it's like you're taking away a part of our very culture. Please don't consider someone stupid just because they are passionate about something.
I have to agree with this. Cap isn't just a character, he's a symbol. He embodies truth, justice and the American way. Sounds corny, but it's true. Very few characters were made to stand for something larger than themselves, but Cap is one of them. Killing Cap is a statement. It is a big deal. Sadly, he was denied a heroic death and was shot down cheap and easy the way Jack Ruby killed Lee Harvey Oswald. He was put down like a rabid dog. He deserved more than that. It would have been better for him to die saving the world. Or saving kids from a fire. It would have even been better for him to die at Iron Man's hands at the end of Civil War. That would have at least had more drama and purpose. But shot on the courthouse steps? Cheap, sad and pathetic. A huge dishonor for a character the likes of Captain America.
Marvel is a corporation. In fact, they have a second corporation that just holds the character and likeness copyrights. I think the comic publishing arm can't kill their "intellectual property" dead.
Here's why he's not dead for good, in my opinion: the company can still make money from him. As long as there is a chance that they can make a (Steve Rogers) Captain America movie, then Steve won't die. When this hypothetical movie comes out, they need to promote it, and publish comics starring Steve Rogers at the same time. Presenting new readers with a different guy in the same costume will put them off, confuse them, discourage new possible fans.
Check the Marvel corporate Annual Report on their website. Cap is listed in their future film options.
I honestly believe that writers, editors, even Quesada - no-one has any authority to permanently kill a major character, now that Marvel has shareholders...
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