the difference is that KC flash other figs and feats is just a figure/piece of the game, pag na crit hit patay pag minamalas patay, pag walang pyesa patay

Theme team bonuses affect the game mechanic as a whole and the abuses that stem from this mechanic seriously derails the game itself. Not to mention it seriuosly takes the fun out of the game itself due to other possible abuses. Kung ang isang pyesa broken or malakas isang pyesa lng un, pag ang game mehcanic mismo ang abuso ibang usapan na un

well ewan ko sa inyo! hahaha the only possible abuse i can see sa theme bonuses is un BFC and i don't think it takes the fun out of the game, it makes it more challenging. parang ganito lang yan sa tingin ko eh i play PT against my opponents lamp team pero he plays OD, so if that's the case di na ko mageenjoy? ang theme bonuses where made to encourage theme play. basta it always boils down naman sa army build and tactics eh. a good example of a this is charlon vs gatx nun uhp.

Ganito lang kasimple yan guys.
BFC's lang yan.
Walang BFC's before. So parang naglaro lang kayo old school. I do understand that BFC's grant HUGE bonuses but Heroclix was originally played with no advantages on either side given all other things equal (i.e. team build, etc) I had a hard time adjusting to the BFC's pero it is still a dice game. hahaha

maybe nay-sayers hate the rule kasi di naman sila theme players? but un nga BFC lang nga un pinaka malaki advantage ng keywords eh.

pero d nyo ba nasiep, tama tactics and all that pero sayang naman BFC ok na twist na ung BFC sa laro e. Pero ung abuse stemming from this will really take the game farther away than is is already. Sa ngayon masasabi nyo enjoy un ganito pag may nakaranas na nang abuso tgnan ko lng kung d kyo umatras ulet. kung sa US marami nanag lumabas na abusive teams using the them team ruling pag ginawa na ren d2 yan mararamdaman nyo un pagiging broken nya

Pinaka malaking advantage ng theme playes? BFC ok ka lng? ung prob mong libre? ung initative roll bonus dun palang ang LAKI na ng advantage mo sa laro. To be able to control the map most of the time, to execute a well timed Prob Control? Then to screw up the BFC in play by taking advantage of it? sheesh ewan ko nalng kung lugi pa theme team sa lagay na un kahit wala na ung BFC bonus malakas na ung Prob at Initative e

teka, walang BFC nun time na yun ah...oh well...

The theme team benefits are abusable, just like any other changes that were introduced over the past 5 years of this game, like when feat cards and bfcs were first introduced. And just like broken feat card combos and unfair BFCs, all you have to do is prepare for theme team abuse when building your own team. It's part of the challenge. There are ways around everything, even these theme team bonuses. It only looks abusive now because we're all playing with pseudo-keywords that glen posted for older sets, but once the older sets get OFFICIAL keywords from Wizkids, it might not be that easy. Notice the JLA members and LOSH members. Not all of their keywords match because of JLI, JLE, Extreme Justice, Legion, Legion of Superheroes, etc. It WILL be hard to pull of a theme team that's properly balanced if we used WK-only keywords.

The sign of a good player is one who finds ways around the obstacles put in front of him. This game has been around for 5 years now, change is always to be expected. If the game ran this long without any changes, it will grow stale REALLY fast.

Is this mechanic broken as most of the americans think? Let's wait and see. They only have 2 sets to build from, and like us, are just making keywords of their own. If this does end up broken, WK will errata the sh!t out of it anyway.

Well thing is, it ain't just about playing around it, it's playing it right. WK already made a huge mistake before in creating a mechanic that was so screwed hence the total revamp was made in one major game line. I hope HC does not go that direction.

Uhm. Pwede bang maglaro na lang muna tayo? Parang walang pinatutunguhan yung pagdedebate. Puro kasi speculation. Buti pa let us stick to the facts first. The only thing that is certain is what Mikey said.So there. Rules are rules people. Wag na nating pangunahan yung WK or anything. Trabaho nila na problemahin yung rules. We players, play - well yung Judges enforce the rules. WK sends us prizes, delayed or not, under the assumption that we are abiding by their tournament rules. So let's all relax and enjoy the game!

Well Javey, that's what we are doing sa mga tourney d ba? Discussion lng naman ang meron d2, insights are what we have here, not demands or anything. Kumbaga e debate lng naman..... we still play the game as is

WK standard rules? Talaga? Must be reading the wrong tournament announcements. Now if we're talking about the themed bonus, yes we are using it. Like what, 2 tourneys? What I think is it's too early to call if it's borken or not. I can't think of any specific army that will surely dominate the tourney. And if there's none, that's good for the game, right?

ask ko lang..meron bang mga keywords na applicable sa marvel and dc?? like isang keyword meron ang isang fig sa marvel tpos ung isa sa dc??

Most of our tourney do use the same rules, sa points lng naman d nagkakapareho, but my point is, we are not necessarily complaining, we are simply discussing the possible brokenness that this new mechanic might cause, wala pa naman sumisigaw na iban cya or palitan e. I agree laruin muna para makita kung ano ang magiging long term effect niya.

Hans,

Check mo un isang link sa start ng thread na to. May compilation ng mga current keywords at saka mga figs na may theme teams na kasama.
As of now, ito yung mga keywords na may figs to both marvel and dc.

Armor
Brute
Celebrity
Future
Martial Artist
Mutant - Mano R apparently.
Mystical
Past
Police
Reporter
Robot
Ruler
Scientist
Soldier
Spy
Teen - so far may pinakamaraming "members"