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Grumpygoat: I fully agree with you on the aspect of if Kyle became a Blue Lantern that he would then be relegated to a back-up character. And I definitely would not want to see that happen. But that is not really the point of view that I was asking from as to if he would make a good candidate for one.
USAgent: with all due respect I don't agree witht he idea that just because a character wore blue, that he should be a Blue Lantern, as you have indicated with Ted Kord / Blue Beetle. Ted Kord was not like the current Blue Beetle. For Ted the "blue" part was merely the color of his costume. That is like saying Batman should be a Black Lantern, or Captain Marvel (Shazam) should be a Red Lantern. Those characters wear those colors, but in no way personify Death or Rage.
Azs: I completely agree with your accessment as to how hope would power the ring. When it came to the Yellow rings, the "recruitment line" that the ring would say when it picked a wearer was "You have been shown to have the ability to instill great fear". In their case it was them creating fear in others that powered them. It's not like Sinestro was running around getting more and more scared so that he could fight.
Also if you look at the offset in colors away from the green center point of the "rainbow". Ganthet said that the farther away you get from center, red and violet, that the rings are more comsuming to the bearer. Also that the Green is the balance point. This would indicate that as the colors step out that the rings would operate in a very similar fashion. So if Yellow, one step out to the left, operated by the wearer's ability to instill fear in others, than it is reasonable to think that Blue, one step out to the right, will operate based on the wearer's ability to instill hope into others.
Just my thoughts, and I do appreciate the other opinions and thoughts as well.
I should've put a smiley behind the Ted Kord statement hahahahaha.
In a few years it will be necesary a new "Crisis on Infinite Earths" to keep it simple again.
But that's what "Final Crisis" is all about. It'll simplify everything again, only better then before.
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WHY NONE OF THE 52 EARTHS IS THE SILVER AGE (1973-1985) EARTH!
Well, they've not explored all of the 52 earths, so, who knows? Afterall, they've shown (over the last few years) a pre-crisis like Supergirl, and not just once. There may be a Silver-age like earth out there.
Also if you look at the offset in colors away from the green center point of the "rainbow". Ganthet said that the farther away you get from center, red and violet, that the rings are more comsuming to the bearer. Also that the Green is the balance point. This would indicate that as the colors step out that the rings would operate in a very similar fashion. So if Yellow, one step out to the left, operated by the wearer's ability to instill fear in others, than it is reasonable to think that Blue, one step out to the right, will operate based on the wearer's ability to instill hope into others.
I think this is a cool point, and probably pretty close to being true. The other 'lanterns' we've seen is Star Saphire's branch, which i believe became the Indigo lantern's. Them, being on the far side of the spectrum, are obsessed with the concept of love and pursue it at all costs. Such as it were, the Red end would be similar.
I'm really liking this. I know it's cheesy and kinda tacky, but it's being really well done.
Who do you guys think would be some cool representations for Earth sector new/lanterns? I liked the idea of Luthor/Orange, but whatabout some others?
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So, no. I absolutely do not think Kyle should be a Blue Lantern. He absolutely fits the profile, but I think making him a Blue Lantern would effectively be a kiss of death for the character.
No, the kiss of death for Kyle would be if Dan Didio ever realized that he has another character from the 90s to kill.
That would imply that Dan Didio reads ...
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No, the kiss of death for Kyle would be if Dan Didio ever realized that he has another character from the 90s to kill.
That would imply that Dan Didio reads ...
Killing characters only serves to incite fanboys into a furor. The best way to eliminate a character is to let it slowly fade into the background.
Otherwise, a million people will come out of the woodwork saying how they would have bought a series for Dead Character X, that the replacement for Dead Character X is lame and they're going to ban it, so the publisher darn well better do what they say.
Never mind how well written the story is or anything like that. Or the fact that the character has had one or more series that were published and failed. Or anything else resembling logic.
But, suffice to say: No, killing a character seems pretty much the guaranteed way to get the character a revamp.
Dying was the best thing that happened to both Hal Jordan and Jason Todd.
Killing characters only serves to incite fanboys into a furor. The best way to eliminate a character is to let it slowly fade into the background.
I agree with you .. but that doesn't explain Dan Didio:
Conner Kent
Conner Hawke
Bart Allen
Ted Kord
Stephanie Brown
Jennie-Lynn Hayden (Jade)
Pied Piper
Kal-L
The Question
Ronnie Raymond
I agree with you .. but that doesn't explain Dan Didio:
Conner Kent
Conner Hawke
Bart Allen
Ted Kord
Stephanie Brown
Jennie-Lynn Hayden (Jade)
Pied Piper
Kal-L
The Question
Ronnie Raymond
All of the new gods ...
What? Steph may be back now. This is why writers invented Lazurus Pits.
And, if the deaths have meaning, I'm all for them being forever. Like, Conner Kent. I hated the bugger, but, he died a good death, saved a lot of people. Same thing with Kal-L, Ted Kord and most of the rest you mentioned (I haven't read of the Piper's death yet). Death is a part of life and so, characters should die from time to time. And if they die like heroes, then all the better.
I agree with you .. but that doesn't explain Dan Didio:
Conner Kent
Conner Hawke
Bart Allen
Ted Kord
Stephanie Brown
Jennie-Lynn Hayden (Jade)
Pied Piper
Kal-L
The Question
Ronnie Raymond
But that's what "Final Crisis" is all about. It'll simplify everything again, only better then before.
Well, they've not explored all of the 52 earths, so, who knows? Afterall, they've shown (over the last few years) a pre-crisis like Supergirl, and not just once. There may be a Silver-age like earth out there.
about Final Crisis I don't think it will be a new one Universe Earth again because is too soon. they have to really mess up with all the Multiverse to really need a BIG Crisis again.
No idea of what will be about Final Crisis. I don't know why I don't have a lot of faith on that. I hope be wrong.
I agree with you .. but that doesn't explain Dan Didio:
Conner Kent
This is partially due to legal troubles, partially because he was pushed out of the way to turn Clark back into Superboy.
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Conner Hawke
He died how many months ago?
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Bart Allen
Six months, tops?
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Ted Kord
He's better remembered now than he ever was before getting shot.
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Stephanie Brown
Possibly just showed up in Gotham Underground. Also possibly slated for something with Robin in the future - solicits about someone "spoiling" things for Robin.
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Jennie-Lynn Hayden (Jade)
Unlike Kyle, she was never popular or particularly well known. I'd put her level of popularity about on par with Ice - who came back just this year.
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Pied Piper
Kal-L
The Question
Ronnie Raymond
All of the new gods ...
All right. This is getting tiresome. You're listing characters that have died not within even a year, not necessarily even months, but quite possibly over the past week or three.
That's patently ridiculous. How long did it take Hal Jordan to come back to life? Something around like 10 years? And he's one of DC's most popular characters short of the big three.
And while he was dead, people cried up a storm. They're still doing it about Ronnie Raymond. Or the Question. Spoiler. Stephanie Brown. Some of these characters were obscure, unnotable little nobodies who are pretty much only known because they died - Spoiler, I'm looking at you. Their deaths have, if anything, only popularized them.
Dying is the best thing that happened to a good chunk of those characters. Way better than if Spoiler survived her encounter with Black Mask and decided "Golly, superheroing's dangerous! I'm out!" She'd have faded into the background and way fewer people would care.
Ice, Jade, Ted, whomever - they're known a good deal, in part, because they died.
And bringing up characters that have been dead for two years or less doesn't help your point. At all.
Spoiler. Stephanie Brown. Some of these characters were obscure, unnotable little nobodies who are pretty much only known because they died - Spoiler, I'm looking at you. Their deaths have, if anything, only popularized them.
Dying is the best thing that happened to a good chunk of those characters. Way better than if Spoiler survived her encounter with Black Mask and decided "Golly, superheroing's dangerous! I'm out!" She'd have faded into the background and way fewer people would care.
Actually, Spoiler was well liked before her death. She was the one who seemed fallable, not like Bats, always trying to be perfect. When she became Robin for that short time, it was fairly well-recieved as I recall, tho most knew Tim would be back shortly, still, it was a nice run. Her death just made more people take notice, but there had been people before her death who liked her.
Actually, Spoiler was well liked before her death. She was the one who seemed fallable, not like Bats, always trying to be perfect. When she became Robin for that short time, it was fairly well-recieved as I recall, tho most knew Tim would be back shortly, still, it was a nice run. Her death just made more people take notice, but there had been people before her death who liked her.
Obviously people liked her beforehand.
But on the obscure character scale, she's way down there - and she'd be even further down that scale if she hadn't died.
But on the obscure character scale, she's way down there - and she'd be even further down that scale if she hadn't died.
I guess that kind of depends. I mean, long term Batman readers wouldn't think of her as obscure, I'm sure. Especially in the last four or five years (our time, not DC Universe time), she's played more of a role in events over the course of that time, especially in Robin's book.