Yes I do. It's an old thread though - as evidenced by hair10 still being RA. While looking for it, I did find some posts by nbperp on the topic (Here for instance), and his position seems to be the opposite: PB and EW do not activate Armor Wars. However, I was unable to find an official answer from GD, just the opinion of the RAs.

I think that I saw somewhere a very detailed list of how and what effects happen and in what order. I think that the order would dictate how much damage is taken. For example, I declare Poison (take one damage) and opponent declares toughness (or any other damage reducer) STOP What happens next? Does the Armor Wars BFC activate and resolve first or does the Armor Piercing feat activate and resolve first because the answer to that question would change how everything else resolves. Heroclix is a very linear game so it may be hard for some to see this so called "timing" issue but in other games such as M:TG were an opponent can counter a spell and thereby robbing someone of an effect that triggers off that spell (since it was countered it never happened), timing is very important.

There's no point in continuing to argue how much damage is dealt. The ruling has been made by the Powers That Be. Time to move along.

Well, in all fairness, just about every defensive power, most feats, and... well, pretty much everything in the game should end with "Except if you are using Pulse Wave" :P LOL!!!

This is why my Exp Lockjaws with Shake off & Armor Piercing own the Prison Map. :knockedou

This is incorrect. In order for Shake-Off to activate, you must have a successful break away roll. Phasing and L/C can't be used to avoid it.

double based transporter Plastic Man when he gets Plasticity though... thar's a weiner!

Yep, that is exactly what the situation is. Logic and rational thought is not always a priority for rules at Wiz Kids. LoL Just like when the Exhaustion BFC first came out, many Judge's ruled that the Silver Surfer would take pushing damage because of the card. I argued till I was blue in the face and explained (very nicely ) that characters with the power cosmic team ability "do not take pushing damage" and therefore you can't increase something that doesn't occur. But, nooooooo the judges said sure it does.

sigh....

Oh yeah, rep for your good response.

Who said I was using their Phasing?

yup it is optional! and they are down on the cheap.

"Evil Evil Man!" -Squirrel Girl

Don't know if anyone has said this. Most defensive/damage reducing powers are optional. If Armor Wars and Armor Piercing are in play and your opponent declares poison, exploit weakness or psychic blast, don't you have the option of turning the power off, kind of like batman dropping stealth so a prob control piece can see him. If so, since no damage reduction took place, then Armor Wars wouldn't activate. Just a thought.

-Immortal_Raven

Do you have Slippery equipped? or do you just KO him and move on? :speechles




Poison would be more appropriate. Or that is what the Dr told me about that rash.

Unfortunately, thats no longer true, check your LOSH PAC card. Unlike previous sets, theyre no longer optional. and i still have my Icons PAC, where at least impervious was, but now is no longer the case...

the chernobyl con artist comes with nova blast included...