the way i read it, you get to move 2. the fact that its not on you're dial and its tellin you to move 2 means you get to move 2.

i dont know if this is entirely correct but i interpret it not as a replacement value, rather being moved 2 by special circumstances

i feel the same about Get Away (the mastermind feat)

I don't think that's what they were going for though. Had that been the case, it would have been much easier to say 'give this character a power action, it can break away automatically and move up to 2 squares and make a close combat attack'.

You move up to two squares via lunge. When occupying hindering terrain, your movement value is halved. Movement value =! move up to two squares.

I wonder how this would work with pounce...

Whoops my bad.. misread..

Then I just disagree with Phreak..

BWAHAHAAH

TROGDOR STRIKES AGAIN!!!

the reason it doesnt say "Give power action" becasue i believe you can give your figure a move action (use L/C) move 2 squares and then make a close combat attack

if it said "Give power action" that defeats the purpose of allowing the use of CCE when using this feat.

the way its worded now they can move the two squares and use close combat expert

the reason it doesnt say "Give power action" becasue i believe you can give your figure a move action (use L/C) move 2 squares and then make a close combat attack

if it said "Give power action" that defeats the purpose of allowing the use of CCE when using this feat.

the way its worded now they can move the two squares and use close combat expert

I read this to be much like OoTS, but it has that line in there about being before an attack because it might be used with characters that have flurry -- they want to nip the "move 2 - attack - then move 2 more - attack" ideas right in the bud. OoTS Batman doesn't need to have that said since he doesn't have powers that are quite as abuse friendly in combination.

I wonder if this means you attack the character you were based with in close combat from two squares away. For five points it seems far fetched you can attack someone else. I just wonder if you can use a ranged attack or if it has to be a close combat attack or action. Think of the lack of range for many characters with leap climb or cce, not the most range oriented pieces. The wording is of course wizkids patented fuzzyness.

The feat does not change the requirements for close combat.
you still must be adjacent to the target. You could only attack from two squares away if you are a giant figure.

Here's how I think it will be ruled:

Any time you make any kind of action (move action, power action, or close combat action) that will result in a close combat attack, before making the attack you may automatically break away and move 2 squares.

That's pretty awesome for somebody with Charge and Close Combat Expert or Leap/Climb (auto-breakaway or +2 squares alone would each be worth 5 points!), and almost always worth using on non-Charging bricks.

I don't think you'll be able to Lunge on an action that doesn't result in a close combat attack (Outwit, a non-transporter move action, Running Shot).

I'm unsure when you get to make the auto-breakaway and move, though. Does it have to be at the beginning of the action, or at any time before you make "a" close combat attack?

Which of the following will be legal uses for Lunge?

i) Declare a Charge, lunge two squares, and then Charge normally
ii) Declare a Charge, move normally (possibly basing Enemy A), and then Lunge two squares to reach character B
iii) Declare a Flurry, make one attack, and then Lunge before making the next close combat attack

I can see reasons why all of the above would be legal, but the most restrictive interpretation of the feat would only allow i).

the main thing is this is all speculation, this feat is gonna get hit with the nerf stick, but hard (at least the way we are reading it).

SOOOOOO....

I am pretty sure its gonna be something along the lines of give this character a power action move him up to two squares (no break away required), and make a close combat attack.

pardon the massive paraphrasing.


you know what really chaps my hide!!!!!!

HOW THE HECK DOES WK LET THINGS LIKE THIS GET OUT THE DOOR WITHOUT CHECKING IT.......UGH.....
ITS ENGLISH, READ BOOK!!!! or better yet YOUR INSTRUCTION MANUAL!!! THEN PROOFREAD IT....


:edit 2 seconds after:

prolly end up like sidestep from Crisis but for single characters.


Sorry bout the rant.

What the heck or youtalking about you can't use the main effects of CCE without giving a POWER ACTION.

This is poorly written feat if it doesnt work in all ACTION situations considering how easy it would have been to simply say, "WHEN you GIVE a POWER or CLOSE COMBAT ACTION...."

That would have covered all those situations with very little wasted text space on the card.

the absence that phrase is a bad mistake on Design or perhaps GD intended for +2 move and auto-breakawai if you meet the PreReqs.

Hey, that's okay. We all like to rant. But we should be kind to these people. They're trying really hard.

Sometimes, TheUnstoppable, you have to be charitable and try to understand their intent (what the person was trying to say) and pay less attention to how they said it, and overlook the errors they made - even game designers might not have perfect communication skills.

It's pretty easy to make mistakes in spelling, grammar, diction. For example, here are some common mistakes you might see in any game designer's posts:

• Knowing the difference between exclamation points and question marks.
• Putting a capital at the beginning of sentences.
• Using apostrophes correctly.
• Using the indefinite article.
• Knowing how many periods are in an ellipsis.
• Avoiding Internet stylistic errors like using all caps or superfluous exclamation marks.

After all, not everyone is as well educated as you and I (are).


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//Glass houses, my friends.
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