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wait a second... i cannot use CCE to activae lunge?! that sucks... why one of the requirements cannot be used with the feat?!?!? this is sooooooooo POUNCE =_=
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wait a second... i cannot use CCE to activae lunge?! that sucks... why one of the requirements cannot be used with the feat?!?!? this is sooooooooo POUNCE =_=
As has been said, Lunge can be used with any power that includes a close combat attack.
Now, ask yourself: Does CCE include a close combat attack?
What has been mentioned is that you cannot use CCE in an attack against a figure on a different elevation, as the description of Leap/Climb only lets you use this function in close combat actions, not power actions.
wait a second... i cannot use CCE to activae lunge?! that sucks... why one of the requirements cannot be used with the feat?!?!? this is sooooooooo POUNCE =_=
How are you coming to that conclusion? It isn't correct.
As has been said, Lunge can be used with any power that includes a close combat attack.
Now, ask yourself: Does CCE include a close combat attack?
What has been mentioned is that you cannot use CCE in an attack against a figure on a different elevation, as the description of Leap/Climb only lets you use this function in close combat actions, not power actions.
It's actually BEFORE making a close combat attack the charactor may automatically breakaway and move two spaces. Many SP's include such attacks Green Scar is really just totally sick with lunge because he's got a move and attack power with LEAP CLIMB for eleven squares of movement on his third & fourth clicks that's more than E2 has on his whole dial.
It's actually BEFORE making a close combat attack the charactor may automatically breakaway and move two spaces. Many SP's include such attacks Green Scar is really just totally sick with lunge because he's got a move and attack power with LEAP CLIMB for eleven squares of movement on his third & fourth clicks that's more than E2 has on his whole dial.
Yeah, but Leap/Climb cannot be used during the movement of either his power or Lunge.
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Smash: Green Scar can use Leap/Climb. Give Green Scar a power action; move him up to his speed value, and then give him one close combat action as a free action.
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Leap/Climb: When you give this character a move action, it automatically breaks away and ignores the effects of characters, hindering terrain, elevated terrain, and outdoor blocking terrain on movement (but it can’t end its movement on blocking terrain). When you give this character a close combat action, it can target a character regardless of the target’s elevation.
Since you give Green Scar a power action, you cannot use Leap/Climb while moving. (It can be used on the close combat action to attack a different elevation, though.)
While Lunging during the SP, he's been given a close combat action, again not a move action, so terrain hinders him for those two squares.
wait a second... i cannot use CCE to activae lunge?! that sucks... why one of the requirements cannot be used with the feat?!?!? this is sooooooooo POUNCE =_=
Not only can you use Lunge to deliver an attack with CCE but charactors with Flurry Leap/Climb and Charge like Electra may charge move two before the attack then move two before the next attack. This is also true for charactors with Charge, Flurry, and CCE but the charactor doesn't get the CCE bounse to damage. No use of CCE or Leap/Climb is required the power simply must be showing on the dial. As I've stated before Big Barda & Mister Miracle is the coolest use of Lunge ever because they get to breakaway and use Miracle Constructs to deliver the close combat attack.
Yeah, but Leap/Climb cannot be used during the movement of either his power or Lunge.
Since you give Green Scar a power action, you cannot use Leap/Climb while moving. (It can be used on the close combat action to attack a different elevation, though.)
While Lunging during the SP, he's been given a close combat action, again not a move action, so terrain hinders him for those two squares.
Never said it could be and use of Leap/Climb isn't required for Lunge the ability to use the power simply must be showing on the dial and that's all that matters.
Never said it could be and use of Leap/Climb isn't required the power is showing on the dial and that's all that matters.
Really?!?!?
Quote : Originally Posted by vamroc
It's actually BEFORE making a close combat attack the charactor may automatically breakaway and move two spaces. Many SP's include such attacks Green Scar is really just totally sick with lunge because he's got a move and attack power with LEAP CLIMB for eleven squares of movement on his third & fourth clicks that's more than E2 has on his whole dial.
Right, Green Scar can use Leap/Climb and has 9 movement on his third and fourth clicks when you factor in the plus two from Lunge with this SP he gets eleven squares of movement on those two clicks. He doesn't ignore hindering terrain but with eleven squares of movement it really doesn't matter.
There is another feat where the charactor gets the benefit of Leap/Climb on a move action and doesn't need to take the power action but I forget what it's called
Swingline.
Though you're definitely not getting all the benefits of Leap/Climb, you just ignore hindering terrain for movement purposes (as well as a +1 to speed value, and you also give Earthbound/Neutralized to characters you hit with a ranged combat attack).
Running Start (prequisites Stealth, Plasticity,) when the charactor moves out of hindering terrain do not halve their movement. So Electra (human) who can use Stealth, Leap/Climb, Charge and Flurry becomes Marvel's version of "Tornado Tyrant".
Ok, simply put, what I was saying is that there's two things going on here.
1) The 2 squares of Lunge itself are not halved. Your actual speed value may be halved, but the two squares are not your speed value. 2) The 2 squares are only able to be used if your speed value is 2 or greater. If you have a speed value of 1, Lunge will not allow you to mave up to 2 squares.
Where did this ruling come from? There isn't any wording on the card forbidding you from moving 2 squares if your charge would be less then the lunge action.
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Prerequisites: Close Combat Expert or Leap/Climb
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When the character is given an action, but before it makes a close combat attack, it can break away automatically and move up to 2 squares.
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