REDO Player 2, turn 3

Crystal will take flight and grab Ben and land M-10, placing Ben N-11
Black panther will move to B-11 and outwit Red Tornado's TK (Avengers TA)
Sue will move to B-12
Clone Reed will perplex up Silver Sable's movement by 1
Sable will move to C-11 (Avengers TA)
Wyatt will move to H-19
Johnny will move to B-10

F4 members have 18 def
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Justice League of America (Satellite Era) (home)

1) E Green Arrow* 70 pts (6/7) N8
* Trick Shot 20 pts
2) E Batman* (IO) 47 pts (6/6) K9
* Dissent 18 pts
3) R Harbinger 50 pts (5/6) O9@
4) R Saturn Girl 44 pts (4/4) L9
5) R Red Tornado 42 pts (6/6) L8
6) R Aquaman* (HT) 27 pts (6/6) N7 w/HO
* Contingency Plan 12 pts@@@ (outwitted)
7) E Howard the Duck 35 pts (4/5) J4
8) E Black Cat 32 pts (5/5) M9

Total - 397 pts

vs

Fantastic Four (visitor)

A) V Thing* (SI) 100 pts (9/9) M9
2) V Human Torch* (CT) 73 pts (7/7) B10@
3) R Ult Mr. Fantastic (FF) 47 pts (6/6) H20
4) R Black Panther 27 pts (5/5) B11@
5) R Invisible Girl* 37 pts (5/5) B12@
6) U Crystal* 62 pts (7/7) L10@
7) E Silver Sable 43 pts (6/6) C11@
8) Wyatt Wingfoot 6 pts (1/1) H19@
*ATA Fantastic Four

Total – 395 pts

HO: Aquaman, H8, K14
LO: I9, D17, N12

Map: Space

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils/...16y0&u8=x-28y2

BFC: Telekinetic Strain

When Telekinesis is used to move a character or object 6 or more squares, the character using Telekinesis is dealt 1 unavoidable damage after the movement is resolved.

JLA Sat 4A:

(free) Aquaman rolls leadership: 2.

1. Red Tornado picks up Batman and moves to O15, dropping at O16.

(free) Batman outwits Reed's perplex.

(free) Saturn Girl and Howard the Duck perplex Howard's defense to 17.

2. Harbinger picks up GA and phases to M15, dropping at N15. She takes a push click.

(JLA) Saturn Girl attempts to break away: 5. She picks up Black Cat and moves to N15, dropping at M16.

3. Aquaman to O12.

4. Howard moves to C10.

Harbinger and Black Cat will PC on a case-by-case basis.

Justice League of America (Satellite Era) (home)

1) E Green Arrow* 70 pts (6/7) N15
* Trick Shot 20 pts
2) E Batman* (IO) 47 pts (6/6) O16
* Dissent 18 pts
3) R Harbinger 50 pts (4/6) M15@@
4) R Saturn Girl 44 pts (4/4) N15@
5) R Red Tornado 42 pts (6/6) O15@
6) R Aquaman* (HT) 27 pts (6/6) O12@ w/HO
* Contingency Plan 12 pts@@@
7) E Howard the Duck 35 pts (4/5) C10@ (def plx +2)
8) E Black Cat 32 pts (5/5) M16

Total - 397 pts

vs

Fantastic Four (visitor)

A) V Thing* (SI) 100 pts (9/9) M9
2) V Human Torch* (CT) 73 pts (7/7) B10@
3) R Ult Mr. Fantastic (FF) 47 pts (6/6) H20 (Plex OWed)
4) R Black Panther 27 pts (5/5) B11@
5) R Invisible Girl* 37 pts (5/5) B12@
6) U Crystal* 62 pts (7/7) L10@
7) E Silver Sable 43 pts (6/6) C11@
8) Wyatt Wingfoot 6 pts (1/1) H19@
*ATA Fantastic Four

Total – 395 pts

HO: Aquaman, H8, K14
LO: I9, D17, N12

Map: Space

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils/...16y0&u8=x-28y2

BFC: Telekinetic Strain

When Telekinesis is used to move a character or object 6 or more squares, the character using Telekinesis is dealt 1 unavoidable damage after the movement is resolved.

Wow, the JLA retreated totally missed the perplex on howard. SIlver sable missed anyways and they can't see Johnny, so all is good

Player 2, turn 4
Silver Sable will try to kick the stupid Duck in the head 10av+roll(4,2)= 16 hits; since this is the only attack possible this round I'm guessing you'll PC. From Blackcat to 5,2; still hit so PC from Harbringer a 2,1 awww bummer. I hate that duck. Silver Sable pushes.
Johnny doesnt't like ducks either and will to flame punch Howard 10av+roll(3,6) hits for 3. Pushing.
Clone Reed will move to D-10

F4 members have 18 def
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Justice League of America (Satellite Era) (home)

1) E Green Arrow* 70 pts (6/7) N15
* Trick Shot 20 pts
2) E Batman* (IO) 47 pts (6/6) O16
* Dissent 18 pts
3) R Harbinger 50 pts (4/6) M15@@
4) R Saturn Girl 44 pts (4/4) N15@
5) R Red Tornado 42 pts (6/6) O15@
6) R Aquaman* (HT) 27 pts (6/6) O12@ w/HO
* Contingency Plan 12 pts@@@
7) E Howard the Duck 35 pts (1/5) C10@ (def plx +2)
8) E Black Cat 32 pts (5/5) M16

Total - 397 pts

vs

Fantastic Four (visitor)

A) V Thing* (SI) 100 pts (9/9) M9
2) V Human Torch* (CT) 73 pts (6/7) B10@@ SA:1
3) R Ult Mr. Fantastic (FF) 47 pts (6/6) D10@ (Plex OWed)
4) R Black Panther 27 pts (5/5) B11
5) R Invisible Girl* 37 pts (5/5) B12
6) U Crystal* 62 pts (7/7) L10
7) E Silver Sable 43 pts (5/6) C11@@
8) Wyatt Wingfoot 6 pts (1/1) H19
*ATA Fantastic Four

Total – 395 pts

HO: Aquaman, H8, K14
LO: I9, D17, N12

Map: Space

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils/...16y0&u8=x-28y2

BFC: Telekinetic Strain

When Telekinesis is used to move a character or object 6 or more squares, the character using Telekinesis is dealt 1 unavoidable damage after the movement is resolved.

Not so fast. Sable did miss, but by ignoring my PC on a case-by-case basis instructions, you created a situation where the dice were rolled illegally, which could essentially be seen as "priming the pump." I'm going to request a redo on all actions after Sable's miss.

Priming the Pump?

only other action was johnny which your PCer could have seen anyways. then Reed movement.

I think I know what you are referring too. I see know, only possible attack this round meant only possible one your PCers can see this round.

Ugg, as you can see I'm full of typos. Couldn't* on 2nd post above.

Also, if I thought things through; I would've moved Reed first. So anyways, on with the game.

Man, Im most be smoking something. Reed move doesnt effect anything.

No, what I'm saying is that you ignored my PC instructions and made dice rolls that shouldn't have been made.

Let's switch the places of your two PC rolls, the 7 and the 3. Say the first PC roll you'd made would have been the 3, followed by a 7, and then finally the 9 Johnny rolled.

Then I'd say, "Wait a minute. That shouldn't have been any PC rolls because Sable's attack missed. That first 3 should have been Johnny's."

To which you might have argued, "Sorry, no transferring of rolls. Johnny's attack stands."

And we'd have gone back and forth until a mod stepped in and made whatever decision they would have made. (Most likely a reroll).

But this dilemma hasn't been created by the dice roller. My instructions clearly stated "PC on a case-by-case basis." By not following that, you created the ambiguity we have here, and actions after Sable's miss should be redone properly.

I dont see the big deal, you couldnt have seen Johnny and Silver Sable was the only person in range and you could see. Even I did use the 2nd roll, 7 hits the duck with Johnny. Plus you do set of rolls in your email; it would have been no different if I hit the button 3 times real fast.

The big deal is you ignored my PC instructions.

On top of that, your 2nd roll can't be applied anyway, because, as has long been established in this league, "you can't transfer rolls."

When an action was done that shouldn't have been done, you redo.

sorry but adding my comment, but I agree with Arelius,... I don't see the big deal, Sable hit twice first attack was 6 and the second was 7 she failed only on the 3rd attack the fourth attack hit was made by Johnny.

if you didn't want to PC anything that is better for Arelius since both the first and second attack hit just KO Howard and move on with the game.

so just go with the turn or KO Howard and you saved both PC's I don't see anything different. I understand that you want to use PC on a "case by case" matter but by playing games online and you having two PCers one attack can last hours,.... this is just a game, go with what makes sense.

once again sorry for adding my comments but I couldn't help myself.

Incorrect. Her first attack missed. GA missed the 17 defense Howard was sporting. PC rolls shouldn't have been made, both because they were unnecessary and because they were in contravention of my instructions.