Someone asked me if I thought Ragnarok Surtur was better than the SR. My answer is a simple: Heck yes!

The best thing about him, IMO, is the fact that he won't need feats like Fortitude or Armor Piercing to be effective.

Yes, you can equip him with Shellhead, Repulsor SHield, etc. But the PC TA means no worrying about Outwit. Upfront Imperv + 5 damage and Super Strength AND Charge guarantee he'll deal damage when he hits. He picks up 4 range - could be useful I suppose. Damage Soaking Poison and the ability to deal damage to every character in his line of fire with SPs is truly fearsome.

He costs more but is also a greater force to be reckoned with.

Now I just need to get my hands on one.

Methinks that there's a m0use on this board who'd very much like to acquire a Frog of Thunder. Can't blame him, though. I wouldn't mind having one too. Can't help but love silly concepts like that.

Probably at least two mice, in fact. It's the last thing I need from the set!

Plus, my spare chase lamppost Batman feels neglected!

I think seth is a pretty good piece overall.

I love the volstagg review I played him and went 3 - 0.

Happy am I to see the love for Volstagg. I pulled the entire Warriors Three in our 2-booster sealed 300 point event last Saturday, so of course I had no choice but to play them. The Three tore up the four standard rounds, though the battle I had against Thor in the fourth round cannot be attributed to personal success - the Thor player simply forgot that Fandral's leap/climb allows him to attack cross-elevation, and well, suffice to say that no god of thunder enjoys getting sworded for six damage before he has the chance to hit anyone.

I lost in the final to Moonstone+Moonstone+Cap+Ninja+Ninja+something (Jimmy Woo?), but Volstagg went down fighting - he managed to drop one Moonstone by flinging a motorcycle at her, and successfully bludgeoned Captain America into unconsciousness before succumbing to Outwit-related injuries (curse you, Moonstone's Phasing!).

Before this set, using an all-0-range team against a team with any significant range at all was usually suicide - so the Warriors made me proud with their performance on this day (beating up Destroyer, Thorbuster, Phyla-Vell, etc), on a map that favours range to a ridiculous extent. I look forward to trying them out again in Constructed, where I expect they'll still be a force to be reckoned with.

Well, that would be quite the trick seeing as how Thorbuster will come with four other super rares.
Besides, wouldn't you rather be the guy that pulls Frog of Thunder and anything?

Really? I am going to have to stroll over there and see what legs these people are trying to stand on.

Incredibly dubious legs, if you ask me.

Never since the advent of the new distribution model has a set had so many Super Rares that I covet.
And I'm primarily a DC guy.

Bloody killed my Thunderbolts team. Thanks Quebbster. There goes Atlas... On another note, anyone want a Throg or Seth?

Yes please to the throg!

well, too bad for them. It clearly states in the FF rulebook that traits cannot be countered. That makes Thor and Loki a MUCH better piece in my opinion

"Traits are abilities, powers, effects, or other aspects of a character that it
possesses at all times, regardless of how its combat dial is turned during
a game. Traits are indicated by the symbol in the circle next to the
name and/or description of the trait on a character card.
All traits are non-optional and can’t be countered"
FF rulebook, page 19

saw a guy at our sealed event pull 2 of the same God Pack! now he has 2 Throgs!

Ya you played an insane team in the finals to pull those figures in two boosters is crazy its the perfect anti-hammer of Thor team.

The argument is that this particular trait gives Invulnerability, and Invulnerability is a power, and powers can be countered.
I don`t agree, but there it is.

How is the power granted?

By a trait. Which can't be countered.

Or better yet, answer me this: Show me where ON THE DIAL that Invulnerability appears for Thor/Loki, so that you can counter it. Everything that Outwit can affect appears on the dial of the figure (unless you have Thwart, but that's a special exception per the feat).

I would like to know who's arguing that it "can" be countered, just so I know who not to support as a new RA.

Anyway, I think Thor/Loki is an excellent figure, and I really want to get one. And I think it'll be great in 400+ tourneys, with the sheer amount of bad###ery that the classic duo brings. And if you read the Sagas... yeah, Thor/Loki might not be the most accurate, comics-wise, but it's a pretty common occurrence in the classic tales that the comics are based on.