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GIANT SIZE (non-optional) This character can’t be knocked back and ignores other characters’ Force Blast and Plasticity powers. This ability can’t be countered or canceled.
The reason I mention this is in case of using something like Whirlwind. Say you were trying to use that feat when a Giant was adjacent; if the Giant rules said "you can't use Force Blast," then you could make a strong case that Force Blast couldn't be used at all, even against other adajcent opponents.
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I'm pretty sure it was ruled that Dissent didn't work on Power Cosmic or Quintessence (due to their ignoring Outwit), a ruling which made a pretty expensive feat useless against the two team abilities you'd most want to use it against.
This is correct. Dissent allows the character to counter TAs as if they were powers, but Power Cosmic and Quintessence do not allow powers to be countered (they don't ignore Outwit, though, that's a bit of a mistatement).
Doesn't chase Batman have Charge which makes him immune to Force Blast?
uhmm i meant, maneuver him out of stealth outwit his charge THEN force blast him... guess i should be more clear hahaha i'm jk, good catch. but you get the idea.
also; could have had Dr.Doom on my team for outwit.
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Let me be the first to demand a VincetheKid vs VGA cagematch.
Tom, I didn't know you had the power to outwit a Quintessence piece, rather ballsy of you.
lol!
Shows how long it's been since that happened!
It was back when the set first came out, and actually what happened was the player using Spectre (Edmund_Dantes was the player and it was at Big Monkey Comics!) missed his Imperv roll, so he took 5 of 7 possible damage from the first Heavy Object, then took fll damage from the second hit with a heavy and Spectre went down with a thud!
Yeah, outwitting Quintessence would have been tough!
and of course don't have one of those annoying SPs that only allow you to take one click of damage!
Standing up to 14 damage?
Also pretty tough (well, as long as you miss your Imperv or SS roll!)
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new question: I plan to field all-Giants team vs all Rangers team in homage to World Series...I plan to field Toyman, Colossal Boy, Spectre and others....I do have a question -
Since Toyman and Colossal Boy are wildcarders, can they copy Spectre's JSA (on his 2nd click) TA - borrowing 19 def.? then Colossal Boy has Defend and Perplex...can he perplex his Def of 19 to 20 OR he has to perplex Spectre first up to 20 then borrow his 20 def as JSA TA? Same thing with Toyman...
Defend and JSA only work for unmodified values. Whoever gets the defense modifier can use it on top of the sharing, but he can't share it with others (if they all share a 19, then the one who gets modified gets a 20, but the others still have 19).
really? i thought that we have a "replace and then modify" meaning that its okay to use JSA/Defenders to replace then modify??? maybe I am confused...its vice versa?
Spectre has Special Powers on 2nd click that he has JSA TA...he has a 19 defense
Colossal Boy 17 def...has a Defend...and Perplex on the 1st click.
Colossal Boy can only perplex either Spectre or his defense up to 20? if Spectre's - can borrow 20?
anywildcarders like Ace, Toyman, etc...can copy only JSA which is 19 only...not 20, correct?
really? i thought that we have a "replace and then modify" meaning that its okay to use JSA/Defenders to replace then modify??? maybe I am confused...its vice versa?
Spectre has Special Powers on 2nd click that he has JSA TA...he has a 19 defense
Colossal Boy 17 def...has a Defend...and Perplex on the 1st click.
Colossal Boy can only perplex either Spectre or his defense up to 20? if Spectre's - can borrow 20?
anywildcarders like Ace, Toyman, etc...can copy only JSA which is 19 only...not 20, correct?
Replace then Modify is correct. However, JSA/Defenders and Defend all specify unmodified for sharing. That's why
JUSTICE SOCIETY
Characters using the Justice Society team ability can replace their defense value with the unmodified defense value of an adjacent friendly character using the Justice Society team ability.
DEFENDERS
Characters using the Defenders team ability can replace their defense value with the unmodified defense value of an adjacent friendly character using the Defenders team ability.
Defend
Any friendly adjacent character can replace its defense value with this character’s unmodified defense value (including a replacement defense value).
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ah...so once Colossal Boy borrows Spectre's 19 Def...then everyone will get 17 Def from him only and then Colossal Boy only gets to perplex only one of them, correct?
if wildcarders are adj to Spectre and copy JSA, they all get 19, correct?
Last edited by thebigZZZZZ; 11/04/2010 at 19:57..
Reason: realized that I put the wrong defense value