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So Civil War kicked off with the New Warriors blowing up a school bus.
World War Hulk kicked off with a bomb blowing up the planet where the Hulk reigned as the Green King.
Now Siege kicks off with Volstagg blowing up a stadium during a sporting event.
Is that about right?
Anyone see any trends in creativity?
Say wha?
Vollstagg is evil and uses explosives? Please explain!
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No no... Volstagg is not evil. Osborn and Loki set him up to fight some of the Hood's powered-up gang in, i think, Chicago.
The gang knocks him into a crowded football stadium, presses on, Volstagg uses his sword, i think, to deflect a blast which causes an explosion that destroys the entire stadium and everyone in it.
It was all planned my Osborn and Loki to get public support to go after Asgard.
Vollstagg is evil and uses explosives? Please explain!
Asgard is floating above Oklahoma. The Asgardians are walking the Earth. Volstagg was manipulated by Loki and Norman Osbourn (Norman is also being manipulated by Loki) to fight the U-Foes. As the U-Foes are blasting Volstagg, he blocks the blast with his sword, creating a giant explosion inside a sports arena.
This is all done to be able to get popular opinion and support for an attack by Norman Osborn's forces upon Asgard.
Asgard is floating above Oklahoma. The Asgardians are walking the Earth. Volstagg was manipulated by Loki and Norman Osbourn (Norman is also being manipulated by Loki) to fight the U-Foes. As the U-Foes are blasting Volstagg, he blocks the blast with his sword, creating a giant explosion inside a sports arena.
This is all done to be able to get popular opinion and support for an attack by Norman Osborn's forces upon Asgard.
It has become so incredibly hard to read comics...
The old books (Golden/Silver Age) may have been simplistic and sometimes cartoony, and the Bronze Age may have mostly stunk, but they are now just so pretentious and heavy handed now it is just hard to bear. That combined with their total lack of respect for character/continuity...ugh!
Does anyone know the exact date when greed and hubris replaced creativity and fun in comics?
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I have been cutting back a lot recently. I used to get no less than 10-12 comics a week...now I am lucky to get 5. The price is just too much and right now the stories are sometimes not too good. I like most of what I'm getting but I usually feel as if I am reading a story without a payoff. Large cross-over events run into other large cross-over events so much that it seems as if there has been a 5-year mission to milk all the cash I can give.
Did Avengers Disassembled ever stop? What about Crisis? Independents look more appealing and back issues are finding their way into my reading stack on a daily basis (I am currently on issue 26 of the 65+ issue All-Star Squadron).
The gang knocks him into a crowded football stadium, presses on, Volstagg uses his sword, i think, to deflect a blast which causes an explosion that destroys the entire stadium and everyone in it.
It was all planned my Osborn and Loki to get public support to go after Asgard.
The Marvel U general citizenry must be radically different than the citizenry of the America I live in. There requires a generous suspension of disbelief to buy into the idea that Volstagg is blamed for that instead of the U-Foes. It was their blast!!
Cops often get giant negative press whenever someone dies during a police chase. This looks like the kind of thing that would be seen the same way, only much more obviously the fault of the law-enforcement officials, the U-Foes. All Volstagg was doing was trying to block the blast with his sword. If any video survived from that event that would be readily apparent, and in this day and age, at a major football game, how could there not be somebody streaming it onto the internet?
I suppose, though, that the equivalent of Fox News in the Marvel U would swallow Osborn's story hook-line-and-sinker, since Osborn's version cries "TERRORISM!"
I am not reading Siege, but I hope this gets addressed.
...now, if we can just get Professor Pyg confirmed.
The Marvel U general citizenry must be radically different than the citizenry of the America I live in. There requires a generous suspension of disbelief to buy into the idea that Volstagg is blamed for that instead of the U-Foes. It was their blast!!
Cops often get giant negative press whenever someone dies during a police chase. This looks like the kind of thing that would be seen the same way, only much more obviously the fault of the law-enforcement officials, the U-Foes. All Volstagg was doing was trying to block the blast with his sword. If any video survived from that event that would be readily apparent, and in this day and age, at a major football game, how could there not be somebody streaming it onto the internet?
I suppose, though, that the equivalent of Fox News in the Marvel U would swallow Osborn's story hook-line-and-sinker, since Osborn's version cries "TERRORISM!"
I am not reading Siege, but I hope this gets addressed.
In fairness, it would be easy to blame Volstagg too as the deflection looks to have amp'ed and spread the blast. Cameras would easily make it look as if Volstagg was spraying out an energy wave from his sword.
That and, y'know, people get cranky about their football. Volstagg wiping out the Chicago Bears would be pretty bad press.
Frankly, considering the explosion looked like it was vaporizing everyone in the stadium I've trouble believing that only about 2000 are dead. Soldier Field has a capacity of 61,500, right?
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The Marvel U general citizenry must be radically different than the citizenry of the America I live in. There requires a generous suspension of disbelief to buy into the idea that Volstagg is blamed for that instead of the U-Foes. It was their blast!!
Cops often get giant negative press whenever someone dies during a police chase. This looks like the kind of thing that would be seen the same way, only much more obviously the fault of the law-enforcement officials, the U-Foes. All Volstagg was doing was trying to block the blast with his sword. If any video survived from that event that would be readily apparent, and in this day and age, at a major football game, how could there not be somebody streaming it onto the internet?
I suppose, though, that the equivalent of Fox News in the Marvel U would swallow Osborn's story hook-line-and-sinker, since Osborn's version cries "TERRORISM!"
I am not reading Siege, but I hope this gets addressed.
It was, briefly.
Nobody actually supports Normie on this one.
Not even OBAMA!
(Granted, I'm not up on my Siege Front Lines, but the last issue was all about reporters being denied access)
Makes no difference, the Avengers Resistance over in Initiative already dug up Osborn's paper trail used to pay off the U-Foes.
It's really annoying to me that it's becoming more and more apparent that, with the new "Heroic Age" thing coming up, that while Siege may be an event seven years in the making, its resolution will apparently undo all the plotlines of those seven years. Stamford STILL happened, Civil War STILL happened. The need for the Superhuman Registration is still perfectly valid. Regardless of Norman and his Cabal, the heroes of the Marvel U have a lot to answer for. Yet it looks like all of that will soon be swept aside for this apparent reboot.
It's really annoying to me that it's becoming more and more apparent that, with the new "Heroic Age" thing coming up, that while Siege may be an event seven years in the making, its resolution will apparently undo all the plotlines of those seven years. Stamford STILL happened, Civil War STILL happened. The need for the Superhuman Registration is still perfectly valid. Regardless of Norman and his Cabal, the heroes of the Marvel U have a lot to answer for. Yet it looks like all of that will soon be swept aside for this apparent reboot.
While I would agree that, in the Marvel U, the need for hero registration still exists, the reason it was allowed in the first place was because several big name heroes went along with, Iron Man & Reed Richards being chief among them. And Spider-Man even went along with it revealing himself. (although that has already been retconned in an awesome story that everybody loves called One More Day) Now, having seen the effects of registration, and all the destruction that chasing down heroes has caused, i would imagine the general public would be willing to go back to the way things were before civil war.
They kind of turned the tables on Volstagg. They made it out to look like his sword was causing all the damage......like an enchanted sword or something. How would a person with no God knowledge know the difference?
I don't know whether to love Sentry or hate him. Hes really stepped up his game (as opposed to crying in some corner). Norman really has him controlled for now and I can only see Captain Americe breaking him outta this phase.
They kind of turned the tables on Volstagg. They made it out to look like his sword was causing all the damage......like an enchanted sword or something. How would a person with no God knowledge know the difference?
I don't know whether to love Sentry or hate him. Hes really stepped up his game (as opposed to crying in some corner). Norman really has him controlled for now and I can only see Captain Americe breaking him outta this phase.
You know, up until now I wanted to see Sentry pull through it all and grow as a character. After this issue and the last issue of Dark Avengers, I want someone to kill him.
So checking up on the Dark Avengers? Noh Varr is long gone. Ares is dead. Daken has repeatedly expressed his intentions of betraying Osborn if it suits him. Upcoming solicits suggest that Bullseye and Moonstone may not be sticking it out with Osborn.
It's gonna be a lonely field position for Osborn if he's left with only Sentry and Venom to back him up. Sentry's not that unbeatable.
Quasar, Nova, Darkhawk, Blackbolt, Wraith, and some others
I mean shoot, if DC can have Justice League Europe, International, America, etc why not?
That's a good point. That way we'll have a team to guard the galaxy
And I'm glad that Nova isn't joining the Avengers. It seems like it would be a huge downgrade for him to go from protecting the universe to sticking around on Earth.
Now we just need to figure out how to get more people reading Nova...
Quasar, Nova, Darkhawk, Blackbolt, Wraith, and some others
I mean shoot, if DC can have Justice League Europe, International, America, etc why not?
Didn't Marvel already try something like that back in the early 90's? With the Silver Surfer, Beta Ray Bill and Quasar. And maybe one or two others (I can't recall).