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See the Batman Vs. Chuck Norris one is tricky, because it all depends on what you consider victory.
I say Bats wins, and here is why:
Bats knows that the only way to beat Chuck Norris is to not give Chuck the chance to kill you; therefore Bats kills himself before Chuck can, thus denying Chuck victory.
But I could certainly see where one could argue that Chuck Norris wins in this scenario by mere virtue of his reputation alone.
All this "If Batman has time to prepare, he can't lose" stuff is just not accurate...at least it wasn't back in the day. Nowadays, he is unbeatable, but that degree of invincibility makes for a much less intriguing and iteresting character, at least to my way of thinking.
Batman's bread and butter has largely been encounters with others like himself...super villains with cool gimmicks instead of real powers, street-level hoods, international assasins, etc. If he can virtually single-handedly defeat a horde of invading, super-powered aliens, then no mere mortals are even a challenge. That means that unless his antagonist in any given story is some awesomely-powerful foe, the end is a foregone conclusion and not that fun to read.
The Batman of the last 20 years is virtually infallible. No one ever outsmarts him, he is extremely rarely outfought, and thus, he is less "human" than at any time in his 70-year history. If I wanted an all-powerful, unbeatable hero, I'd be reading Superman, wouldn't I?
People can call Batman The Most Dangerous Man Alive if they want to, but, Kobra, "The Deadliest Man Alive" beat him down.
All this "If Batman has time to prepare, he can't lose" stuff is just not accurate...at least it wasn't back in the day. Nowadays, he is unbeatable, but that degree of invincibility makes for a much less intriguing and iteresting character, at least to my way of thinking.
Batman's bread and butter has largely been encounters with others like himself...super villains with cool gimmicks instead of real powers, street-level hoods, international assasins, etc. If he can virtually single-handedly defeat a horde of invading, super-powered aliens, then no mere mortals are even a challenge. That means that unless his antagonist in any given story is some awesomely-powerful foe, the end is a foregone conclusion and not that fun to read.
The Batman of the last 20 years is virtually infallible. No one ever outsmarts him, he is extremely rarely outfought, and thus, he is less "human" than at any time in his 70-year history. If I wanted an all-powerful, unbeatable hero, I'd be reading Superman, wouldn't I?
People can call Batman The Most Dangerous Man Alive if they want to, but, Kobra, "The Deadliest Man Alive" beat him down.
I said that he is almost unbeatable with prep time. I never claimed that he hadn't been beat. In fact, I gave a couple of examples of where he was taken down by an opponent. He took down the white martians by figuring out what they were and used his knowledge of the Martian Manhunter's weakness to fire to win. He would have been easily killed if he tried to fight them head on. I also wouldn't say that no one ever outsmarts him either. Bane did it during Knightfall and so did Prometheus in JLA during their first encounter. Those are just two off the top of my head. I also wouldn't call him all-powerful or unbeatable either. He has been taken down many times over the years. Again, he has to be written with a somewhat unbeatable quality because if he wasn't, then he would be dead. You can say the same for any super hero. They all almost always win in the end. You use Captain America as your avatar. The same can be said for him. He may be a little faster and stronger than Batman because of the super soldier serum, but he is still just a man. I think that your all-powerful and unbeatable statement would fit Cap even more if you are looking at it from that perspective. Cap more times than not dives head first into a battle with super powered criminals who are much more powerful than he is. Batman at least comes up with a plan ahead of time against a physically superior foe.
Also, Superman called Batman the most dangerous man alive not people, so I guess you have to take that up with Grant Morrison. Don't blame the character. Blame the writers. They are the ones who write Batman and other characters as such. Again though, just about every hero ends up with the win in the end regardless of how they get there. Guys like Superman can usually just keep punching things until they fall for the victory. Batman is a regular guy, so his wins need to be more thought out and impressive.
C'mon people, it's a comic book hero. All comic book heroes end up winning in the end. Even if they are a billionaire playboy that happens to be a drunk and sleeps with countless women. Sure the bad guy will get a few token victories, but Batman is no different than anybody else. The good guys always win. Lame.